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Re: Toyota Patents [akirby] by gagrice
Dec 29, 2008 (1:19 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (Dec 29, 2008 12:00 pm)

So no more "they bought it from Toyota" crap. Cause if they did then it would only get 33/34 mpg just like the Camry.
 
It is good to see Ford doing some innovation that leapfrogs the Imports. It may be what they need to keep out of Bankruptcy.
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I'll go there. by milkman1
Dec 29, 2008 (4:32 pm)
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They make the Fusion in Mexico to avoid the UAW. The Japanese automakers open their plants in right to work states and avoid labor unions taking hold in the first place. The US makers get knocked around by the union when they try and step out of line, example GM and their Saturn plant. US makers are better off importing their own cars. You know, there used to be one brakeman for each rail car on a train. Those jobs went away too because a more efficient means of completing the work was invented. You know, like the cotton gin etc. Teach your kids to do something new auto workers, your compensation is out of line with your skill (mostly). Thanks, The Management
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Re: Toyota Patents [akirby] by kdhspyder
Dec 30, 2008 (9:52 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Dec 29, 2008 12:00 pm)

Yes for the present the FFH has the lead by a good margin in the FE race for the midsized autos. It's a great step and good timing by Ford.
 
Now the ball is in Toyota's court to respond. We all benefit by this. Thanks Ford.
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Re: Fusion won CD comparo [coldcranker] by mtnman1
Dec 30, 2008 (3:51 pm)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Dec 29, 2008 8:26 am)

Yeah, but the Prius and Insight won't be as classy or as fun to drive either. I'd happily give up a few MPG to drive a car that in my opinion is so much better looking. I guess my experience with talking to a couple of Prius owners is their smugness and a "I'm smarter than you" attitude they have that totally turns me off toward the car..
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Fusion Hybrid '10 availability by jd25
Jan 03, 2009 (4:07 pm)
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Until now I have not considered a hybrid because I thought we have to wait couple of more years for the technology to mature. But after reading about Fusion Hybrid '10 now I'm seriously considering it if it is available in next couple of months. Does anyone when it would be available for sale and the approx. pricing?
 
Thanks in advance!
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Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [jd25] by bigt
Jan 03, 2009 (9:06 pm)
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Replying to: jd25 (Jan 03, 2009 4:07 pm)

I received a sopec .pdf file from the dealer on the Milian, I am impressed but still no info on how to pre-order. Should I just wait?
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Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [jd25] by akirby
Jan 03, 2009 (9:47 pm)
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Replying to: jd25 (Jan 03, 2009 4:07 pm)

Job 1 is first week in February - hybrids may be a bit later. We should know more next week. My guess is they'll hit dealers in April-May.
 
All you need to do to pre-order is talk to the dealer, agree on a price (e.g. MSRP) and have them put in the order whenever the order banks open.
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Here is alink to by scape2
Jan 04, 2009 (8:32 am)
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the CD article.. pass it on in other forums...
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/car_shopping/green_machines/2010_f- ord_fusion_hybrid_short_take_road_test
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Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [jd25] by coldcranker
Jan 04, 2009 (8:44 am)
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Replying to: jd25 (Jan 03, 2009 4:07 pm)

jd25 said: "Until now I have not considered a hybrid because I thought we have to wait couple of more years for the technology to mature."
 
I think you're right to go ahead and buy now, because Ford has a ton of experience with the Ford Escape hybrid in the marketplace for about 5 years now. Lots of New York taxi experience in there, too. The Fusion improves on the Escape's hybrid system, evolving the design further. I'm an engineer, and your perception is correct that the engineers need time to evolve something, to get the bugs out. The Escape is generally well thought of in the market, and the Fusion will take it to a whole new level. Very exciting for us engineers, too.
 
In that same Car and Driver issue (Feb. 2009) that the glowing Fusion hybrid article is in, notice the editorial column about hydraulic hybrids. That is awesome, game-changing tech for current polluting, gas-hog urban trucks and SUVs. Hybrids don't have to mean ANY electric motors or batteries!
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Re: Here is alink to [scape2] by coldcranker
Jan 04, 2009 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: scape2 (Jan 04, 2009 8:32 am)

scape2 said: "the CD article.. pass it on in other forums...
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/car_shopping/green_machines/2010_f- - ord_fusion_hybrid_short_take_road_test "
 
Thats a nice test, but remember Car and Driver (the paper Feb. 2009 issue) has a full test and comparison of the Fusion hybrid against Camry, Altima, Malibu hybrids. Guess how the Fusion came out in that test? Notice the colorful language the normally-cynical Car and Driver writers use on the Fusion. Wow.

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