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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 17, 2009 12:48 pm) Strippie I-4? You can comparably equip a Fusion I-4 with automatic, air, traction control, etc., and still come out $7,000 ahead of a similarly equipped Hybrid Fusion. To me, thats too much, economically speaking. For some other people that think with their toenails, it might make sense. In reality, it only makes sense if you drive a lot of miles per year, or you want to stick it to the Mideast terrorists and/or Chavez, both good reasons really. So, if you want to strap 400 lbs of batteries to your butt and pay $7,000 for the privilege, be my guest. I'm sure there will be some. |
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Yes there are certainly those that will not look at the FFH for a variety of reasons, not as much power as the V6, antipathy against the idea of hybrids, fear, normal reticence toward changes, etc. But since this is such a huge and diverse market there are also those buyers who hate Big Oil, hate the oil producers, want a loaded vehicle with very good power but excellent fuel economy, want to leave a smaller carbon footprint, love the idea of promoting new technology, are willing to give up some power for a lower overall cost, etc. All these variations are part of the buying public. You two may fall in the first grouping. There are however lots of buyers, enough to over-subscribe the vehicles, that fall into the second grouping. This is the brilliant marketing discovery that Toyota and Honda and Ford have made. There's money to be made here and in the end that's all that counts. This is just a business with the intention to make money and survive into the future. |
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 18, 2009 10:54 am) Oh, I wouldn't say I'm in that group...if my driving habits were different and I drove more city, I'd certainly consider a hybrid..I am a gadget-head. But I'd want a bigger MPG increase than I'm currently going to get with 90%+ highway driving, before I shell out the extra up-front money that a hybrid would cost, that's all. Reasonable request. Like I said before, they're not a cure all and they aren't for everyone. You know what would be interesting? A web-app where people can plug in the models they're considering, and their driving habits (city% and hwy%, miles per year) and their local gas prices, and it would give them an approximation of their fuel costs per year for each vehicle. Come to think of it, shouldn't be real hard, either...some of the guys at work may be able to throw something together.
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 18, 2009 12:17 pm) The inputs needed are Actual aquisition cost.. Rebates or Tax Credits if any Local Taxes and Fees Insurance Est Maintenance Length of ownership in mo's or yrs Monthly or annual mileage driven Cost of fuel with an escalator for the length of ownership, then averaged. If you go to GasBuddy.com or EIA.doe.gov you can get a feel for where the price of gasoline is going and create an inflation factor. My own is $.50 per gallon per year. 2008 was an extreme aberation on both sides, top and bottom. Fuel Economy, EPA and best guesstimate on real world circumstances. RESALE VALUE!!!!
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 18, 2009 10:54 am) I'm not in that group, as you accused me of. The group I'm in says why pay $7,000 more for the batteries/electrics in a Fusion Hyb than a comparably equipped plain Fusion that still gets 33 MPG hiway. My group also doesn't like the decrease in braking performance, handling, and steering from hauling around the extra 400 lbs of batteries/electrics over a plain Fusion. My group also doesn't put on over 15,000 miles per year, which means its very difficult to recoup the extra $7,000 cost sooner than about 8 years.
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Replying to: coldcranker (Jan 18, 2009 1:18 pm) |
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 18, 2009 12:28 pm) |
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Jan 18, 2009 5:03 pm) Thank-you! I'm free now, because of your permission.
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Replying to: coldcranker (Jan 18, 2009 6:21 pm)
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Replying to: bobgwtw (Jan 18, 2009 9:01 pm) Then there is the ridiculous situation of last summer where 1 y.o. hybrids were selling at higher prices than NEW hybrids at MSRP. Not only was there no depreciation but after one year there was significan't appreciation. Highly unusual? Yes but that was the situation for the better part of 3-4 months. |
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