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#19 of 1144 Re: Fusion won CD comparo [texases] by gagrice

Dec 27, 2008 (7:55 am)

Replying to: texases (Dec 26, 2008 9:06 pm)
Ford said today that its new 2010 Fusion hybrid has been certified by the EPA at 41 mpg/city and 36 mpg/highway, with a combined rating of 39 miles per gallon. That beats the hybrid versions of its competitors in the mid-sized sedan segment (at least based on their 2009 EPA ratings): the Toyota Camry (33 city/34 highway); Chevy Malibu (26/34); and the Nissan Altima (35/33).
 
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/uptospeed/2008/12/ford-hybrid-rol.html
 
The 2009 Fusion/Milan get real high marks from owners. That should be a good sign for Ford. Ford already has the best CUV hybrid for mileage.

#20 of 1144 Re: Fusion won CD comparo [gagrice] by coldcranker

Dec 29, 2008 (9:26 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Dec 27, 2008 7:55 am)
The Ford Fusion Hybrid is very good. However, I think the new Honda Insight being sold for $20,000, and the more roomy Prius that gets better MPG are going to be most people's first choices in hybrids. Moving targets there. To me, the Fusion has the advantage of being the most "normal" car amongst the hybrids, a selling point, but it won't equal the MPG of the more roomy Prius or be as cheap as the new Insight.

#21 of 1144 Re: Fusion won CD comparo [coldcranker] by texases

Dec 29, 2008 (9:30 am)

Replying to: coldcranker (Dec 29, 2008 9:26 am)
"but it won't equal the MPG of the more roomy Prius "
 
I don't think the Prius is more roomy than the Fusion - do you?

#22 of 1144 Fusion Hybrid vs. Prius: Roominess by coldcranker

Dec 29, 2008 (10:19 am)

Replying to: texases (Dec 29, 2008 9:30 am)
texases said: "I don't think the Prius is more roomy than the Fusion - do you? "
 
No, I meant the 2010 Prius will be roomier (slightly) than the previous 2009 Prius, meaning it will get into the range of acceptable interior dimensions for more people. The Fusion is roomier than either the '09 or '10 Prius. In fact, the 2010 Fusion will grow slightly, although I'm not sure by how much.
 
Here is one comparison that favors Prius: 50 MPG for '10 Prius, and 40 MPG for '10 Fusion Hybrid.
 
I did an interior dimensions comparison between the '09 Prius and '09 Fusion just to see how close the jelly-bean shape of the Prius gets to the conventional layout of the Fusion (Note: front Hip Room is the most important to get a roomy feeling, so its in bold letters below.):
 
2009 Prius (2010 model will expand by about 1" in most measurements.):
Interior
Front Head Room: 39.1 in. Front Hip Room: 51 in.
Front Shoulder Room: 55 in. Rear Head Room: 37.3 in.
Rear Shoulder Room: 52.9 in. Rear Hip Room: 51.6 in.
Front Leg Room: 41.9 in. Rear Leg Room: 38.6 in.
Luggage Capacity: 14.4 cu. ft. Maximum Seating: 5
 
2009 Ford Fusion:
Interior
Front Head Room: 38.7 in. Front Hip Room: 54 in.
Front Shoulder Room: 57.4 in. Rear Head Room: 37.8 in.
Rear Shoulder Room: 56.5 in. Rear Hip Room: 53.3 in.
Front Leg Room: 42.3 in. Rear Leg Room: 37.2 in.
Luggage Capacity: 15.8 cu. ft. Maximum Seating: 5
 
Either hybrid vehicle would be especially great as taxi cabs, where high usage and city driving really make the MPG figures save a bunch of money. The Ford Escape already is used a lot as a taxi, and the 2010 Fusion hybrid should make a great taxi with better MPG, and the new Fusion will be just as big inside as the Escape, although without as big of a luggage capacity.
 
'09 Ford Escape Hybrid:
Interior
Front Head Room: 40.4 in. Front Hip Room: 53.3 in.
Front Shoulder Room: 56.6 in. Rear Head Room: 39.2 in.
Rear Shoulder Room: 55.9 in. Rear Hip Room: 49.1 in.
Front Leg Room: 41.6 in. Rear Leg Room: 35.6 in.
Luggage Capacity: 29.2 cu. ft. Maximum Cargo Capacity: 66 cu. ft.
Maximum Seating: 5
  
I was surprised how the front hip room of the Fusion is better than the boxy Escape's!

#23 of 1144 Re: Fusion Hybrid vs. Prius: Roominess [coldcranker] by texases

Dec 29, 2008 (10:30 am)

Replying to: coldcranker (Dec 29, 2008 10:19 am)
Thanks for the info! My brother has a Prius, loves it, gets about 48 mpg in his commute. I've been seriously considering the Camry hybrid, but the CD article has me interested in the Fusion hybrid. Problem might be the Ford dealers wanting to get some extra $$ for it. We'll see.

#24 of 1144 Re: Fusion Hybrid vs. Prius: Roominess [coldcranker] by iwant12

Dec 29, 2008 (11:01 am)

Replying to: coldcranker (Dec 29, 2008 10:19 am)
Do you know if the '10 Fusion will be built in Mexico like the '09s?

#25 of 1144 Re: Fusion Hybrid vs. Prius: Roominess [iwant12] by akirby

Dec 29, 2008 (11:26 am)

Replying to: iwant12 (Dec 29, 2008 11:01 am)
Yes. CD3 production is still in Hermosillo. The Fusion is also exported to South America and Ford can export from Mexico with no tariffs. Exporting from US to SA carries high tariffs.
 
If they get sales high enough to warrant another plant I'm sure it will be in the U.S.

#26 of 1144 Re: Fusion Hybrid vs. Prius: Roominess [akirby] by coldcranker

Dec 29, 2008 (12:01 pm)

Replying to: akirby (Dec 29, 2008 11:26 am)
Markets are small in S. America. Not much money down there. The kinds of cars that do well there are minimal vehicles, built without emissions and safety standards that the Fusion has. Therefore, the Fusion is just not selling well in S. America.
 
Whats funny is that I can buy a Sonata, made in the USA, whereas if I buy a Ford Fusion, its made in a foreign country. Weird.

#27 of 1144 Re: Fusion Hybrid vs. Prius: Roominess [coldcranker] by akirby

Dec 29, 2008 (12:58 pm)

Replying to: coldcranker (Dec 29, 2008 12:01 pm)
If Ford was allowed to build cars in the U.S. the way Hyundai does (and all the other imports) then there would be more U.S. production. But they can't, and I don't want to get started on the reasons why.

#28 of 1144 Toyota Patents by akirby

Dec 29, 2008 (1:00 pm)

I also wanted to point out that the 2010 Fusion uses NO Toyota licensed patents - none. The Escape only used 22 out of hundreds anyway, but they've redone whatever was infringing on the Toyota patents.
 
So no more "they bought it from Toyota" crap. Cause if they did then it would only get 33/34 mpg just like the Camry.

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