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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 11, 2009 1:09 pm) Well, Car and Driver mag clocked a Prius 0-60 mph in 11.3 seconds. Thats very slow. In comparison, my '05 Freestyle goes 0-60 in 8.5 seconds, and its even considered a little slow. And since the electric motors and batteries weigh about 400 lbs, one could build an all-gas-engine Prius that comes in at 2500 lbs instead of 2900 lbs, which means a 1.2L or 1.3L engine can easily get the same 11.3 secs 0-60 times the Prius Hybrid gets now. And braking / handling would be better because of the more nimble weight. And it would be $5,000 cheaper. The light narrow body and small narrow wheels contribute a lot to the fuel economy, more than non-engineers might think. (My guess is you're not an engineer, kdhspyder.) kdyhspyder, this is the easiest argument I ever won. But to the real subject of this thread, the Ford Fusion is a much more robust car than the Prius. Fusion is roomier, more rugged, better in crosswinds, handling, etc. than the Prius, so Ford has done an excellent job. As for me, I wouldn't buy it since I don't do anywhere near 15,000+ miles per year, as I can get a 4-cylinder Fusion non-hybrid for thousands less.
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Anyone know the actual release date of the 2010 fusion-- either gas or hybrid? thanks
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 11, 2009 1:33 pm) Even without the battery pack, two e-motors and PSD...but plus the weight of a traditional tranny the vehicle would likely weigh in at about 2600lbs which puts it slightly heavier than the Yaris and Fit both of which also use the 1.5L ICE. Because of it's extra size and weight, with or without the hybrid option, the Prius is quicker to 60 and in the 1/4 mile than the Yaris but not as quick as the the Fit. But that's more due to Toyota's tuning of the engines for Fuel Economy rather than for performance. The passenger volume of the Prius is significantly greater than the other two but the real kicker is that the fuel economy is far far better than the other two 1.5L ICE-only vehicles. Fit.......... 28 City / 35 High / 31 Comb Yaris...... 29 City / 35 High / 31 Comb Prius...... 48 City / 45 High / 46 Comb So dropping the hybrid option would essentially make the Prius into a Fit. Whoopee. The whole idea of the hybrid option is to improve the fuel economy. BTW all of them have normal 15" wheels which at the time they were designed 6+ yrs ago was the standard for that vehicle size. We'll see about the Gen 3 is debuted in about 5 min. |
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Replying to: coldcranker (Jan 11, 2009 7:59 pm) See prior post about weight and engine size. That's what this tangent was about in any event. But that's all moot now. The Gen 2's are finished as of today. The G3's will soon be built with 0-60's closer to your Freestyle.....but getting 50 mpg. Yes your point about driving well under 15000 miles is critical. At that level it really doesn't matter which vehicle is chosen. Just choosing the most enjoyable one is all that matters. |
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Replying to: ral2167 (Jan 12, 2009 8:14 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Jan 12, 2009 9:35 am) |
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Replying to: coldcranker (Jan 12, 2009 2:58 pm) |
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Replying to: akirby (Jan 12, 2009 3:17 pm)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Jan 12, 2009 3:30 pm) |
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A smash, yes, if Ford can make enough of them...
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