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1054 messages, Last post on Nov 01, 2009 at 2:52 PM
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Replying to: texases (Jan 09, 2009 2:21 pm) I agree with the advantage the Fusion hybrid will have in being a much better handling and robust vehicle than the wimpy Prius. I could get rid of the Prius's electric motors & batteries, put in a smaller engine, get the same overall 0-60 accel times, and probably get an EPA 33 city/ 42 hiway easily in a much cheaper vehicle. (Let me keep the start/stop engine tech.) That body Prius's come in accounts for a lot of the MPG increase (tiny wheels, narrow body). |
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Replying to: coldcranker (Jan 09, 2009 4:02 pm) i also think that all those hybrid FEH taxi's running around NYC are the reason why so few are for sale at the retail level in my region (however ford defines that). as i posted earlier, there are plenty available for retail for sale in SO CAL. if i recall correctly, ford builds about 25k FEH's anually. the FFH is expected to be produced at about the same level, for now. |
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Replying to: texases (Jan 09, 2009 2:21 pm) I would say the Camry Hybrid is your best choice. You should get a near invoice deal on one. I checked the first two dealers in San Diego out of 9 dealers and they have 40 Camry Hybrids on their lots. Mossy Toyota has 106 Prius. So you can probably name your price on a Toyota hybrid about now.
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 09, 2009 6:28 pm) My goodness, how times have changed.....
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Replying to: akirby (Jan 09, 2009 8:26 pm) |
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Seems like Ford has a winner here. Cant say the same for ford credit. Liked my Fusion, Like my new car better. Ford credit........ 
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Replying to: coldcranker (Jan 09, 2009 4:02 pm) This is false. I can tell from what you wrote that you've never been shown just how they operate nor how quick they are nor what the real acceleration is. Keeping abreast of news is one of the best features of this site, but you're 5 yrs out of date on your misconceptions. Hey they've only been out for 8 yrs so that's not too bad. Wrong on the acceleration Wrong on the theory that a smaller motor in a 2800 lb vehicle would get better fuel economy. You'd propose a 1.3L engine? Wrong on 'small wheels' C'mon stay up to date. 
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 11, 2009 1:09 pm) 67.9 in is pretty narrow for a midsize vehicle. It's narrower that a Civic or Elantra, in fact. Also, it uses 15 inch wheels with an option for 16 inchers. In the midsize category, 16 inch wheels is the typical base these days, with 17 inch wheels as an upgrade option. 15 inch wheels are small, whether in a compact or midsize. You were saying?
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 11, 2009 1:09 pm) Well, Car and Driver mag clocked a Prius 0-60 mph in 11.3 seconds. Thats very slow. In comparison, my '05 Freestyle goes 0-60 in 8.5 seconds, and its even considered a little slow. And since the electric motors and batteries weigh about 400 lbs, one could build an all-gas-engine Prius that comes in at 2500 lbs instead of 2900 lbs, which means a 1.2L or 1.3L engine can easily get the same 11.3 secs 0-60 times the Prius Hybrid gets now. And braking / handling would be better because of the more nimble weight. And it would be $5,000 cheaper. The light narrow body and small narrow wheels contribute a lot to the fuel economy, more than non-engineers might think. (My guess is you're not an engineer, kdhspyder.) kdyhspyder, this is the easiest argument I ever won. But to the real subject of this thread, the Ford Fusion is a much more robust car than the Prius. Fusion is roomier, more rugged, better in crosswinds, handling, etc. than the Prius, so Ford has done an excellent job. As for me, I wouldn't buy it since I don't do anywhere near 15,000+ miles per year, as I can get a 4-cylinder Fusion non-hybrid for thousands less.
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Anyone know the actual release date of the 2010 fusion-- either gas or hybrid? thanks
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