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Replying to: akirby (Jan 09, 2009 8:07 am) |
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I thought this was the place to get specifics about these vehicles. I understand that the hybird system would be about different, resulting in better mileage than Escape/Mariner hybrid. Instead, it seems most of the posting are about people being pushed off the road by wind, trade in values, etc. Where can I go to info on these cars? The lack of availability of Ford's hybrids is part of their economic woes. Instead of getting these out, they seem to have little interest in selling them. Instead they keep pushing SUVs and big trucks. They need to get their act together, if not, let them fail.
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Replying to: dgr124 (Jan 09, 2009 11:20 am) We're discussing Ford here, not GM.  Ford at least HAS a hybrid, and sells it in the places most likely to want it...primarily CARB states it looks like. They're getting away from the big SUVs, especially with the new Fusion.
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Replying to: dgr124 (Jan 09, 2009 11:20 am) Well, you can ask a specific question and get it answered - that's usually how forums work. So, what's your question? The lack of availability of Ford's hybrids is part of their economic woes. Instead of getting these out, they seem to have little interest in selling them. Instead they keep pushing SUVs and big trucks. They need to get their act together, if not, let them fail. Wrong. Ford's Escape hybrid lost money until this year. And while they will be profitable from now on the profit margin can't be very big. I'm sure they make more off of a fully loaded non-hybrid model. And the reason they are only selling 25,000 hybrid Fusions/Milans is because that's all the batteries they can get. Toyota pretty much cornered the battery market and there are few alternative resources available. Now that they're profitable Ford would love to build and sell more Fusion hybrids but they can't get enough batteries right now. Even so - they'll make more off of the non-hybrids, so I'm not sure why you think they need more hybrids or they'll fail - probably just the opposite. Although the publicity and buzz from the FFH will probably help overall sales.
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Replying to: akirby (Jan 09, 2009 1:02 pm) Until they can get their JV with Johnson Controls/SAFT on line making batteries primarily for Ford vehicles they will be hamstrung.
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 09, 2009 2:15 pm)
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Replying to: texases (Jan 09, 2009 2:21 pm) I agree with the advantage the Fusion hybrid will have in being a much better handling and robust vehicle than the wimpy Prius. I could get rid of the Prius's electric motors & batteries, put in a smaller engine, get the same overall 0-60 accel times, and probably get an EPA 33 city/ 42 hiway easily in a much cheaper vehicle. (Let me keep the start/stop engine tech.) That body Prius's come in accounts for a lot of the MPG increase (tiny wheels, narrow body). |
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Replying to: coldcranker (Jan 09, 2009 4:02 pm) i also think that all those hybrid FEH taxi's running around NYC are the reason why so few are for sale at the retail level in my region (however ford defines that). as i posted earlier, there are plenty available for retail for sale in SO CAL. if i recall correctly, ford builds about 25k FEH's anually. the FFH is expected to be produced at about the same level, for now. |
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Replying to: texases (Jan 09, 2009 2:21 pm) I would say the Camry Hybrid is your best choice. You should get a near invoice deal on one. I checked the first two dealers in San Diego out of 9 dealers and they have 40 Camry Hybrids on their lots. Mossy Toyota has 106 Prius. So you can probably name your price on a Toyota hybrid about now.
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