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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 08, 2009 6:30 pm) That's my worry with the FFH - it may only be $3k more msrp, but it could be $6k more transaction price. THAT'S a premium I won't pay!
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 9:10 am) sometimes it is the wind combined with slick roads. i do drive a fusion. 
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 10:15 am) He is a horrible shopper. I try to coach him. He just wants to go in and sign on the line. Been going to the same Ford dealer for 30 years or more. He should never trade either. There is NO WAY you will ever get top dollar from a dealer. You trade you get screwed simple as that. Unless of course the car is ready for the $1000 California buyout due to smog failure.
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Replying to: texases (Jan 08, 2009 6:37 pm) Ford, until it's JV with Johnson Controls/SAFT comes on stream, is limited on the supply of battery components it can secure. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 08, 2009 9:31 pm) If you get more than wholesale then the difference is coming out of the new vehicle price, with a few rare exceptions. It's no different than taking your vehicle and selling it at auction (which is quick and easy and a guaranteed sale). Just trying to point out that the dealer isn't "screwing" anybody on trade-ins (in most cases). You just have to understand that you're only getting wholesale value and that can also be affected by current inventory levels. If there is a glut of used explorers sitting on the lot and in the auctions then they won't bring very much. If a used vehicle is in high demand and short supply then the wholesale price goes up.
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Replying to: akirby (Jan 09, 2009 6:11 am) I only look at it from the customers viewpoint. There is a good argument for the dealer also. I just do not subscribe to the easy transaction that costs the consumer $thousands$ of dollars. I have done very well selling 4 vehicles on Craigslist over the last 3 years. It amounted to about $20k in my pocket instead of the dealers. So I did not allow myself to get "screwed" out of that money for an easy transaction. Not everyone has the patience to list a vehicle every week on Craigslist for a year until a buyer comes along. Just trying to point out that the dealer isn't "screwing" anybody on trade-ins (in most cases). In my last attempt to trade in a vehicle, I was offered about $6k under Edmund's wholesale figure for my like new vehicle. And I graded it "Good" not outstanding as it actually was. So if I was easy that GMC dealer would have SCREWED me royal. I ended up selling the truck on Craigslist for $7k more than the dealer offered. They would have made a profit on the Denali I was interested in. Glad I did not buy it. I got a much better deal on a superior Sequoia, by not getting in a hurry. The issue is, will there be any good deals on a Fusion Hybrid. If they control the distribution as they have with the Escape Hybrid, I would guess NO GOOD DEALS.
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 09, 2009 6:50 am) It is possible the dealer was simply lowballing you but if that was the case then they should have increased their offer when you didn't accept the lowball price. Trading in is selling wholesale and really no different than taking the vehicle to the auction - you get market price and it may be really low. Selling it yourself retail is a totally different story - you just have to find one buyer willing to buy it. I'm not arguing that selling it yourself is better - it almost always is. But that doesn't mean that a dealer offering a low trade-in price is ripping you off. Maybe the dealer already had 10 of that type of vehicle and just didn't want another one. If you really want to get a reasonable trade-in price, go let carmax appraise it for you. They'll buy it from you (wholesale of course) without purchasing another vehicle, so what they offer will be a good indication of what the vehicle is actually worth.
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Replying to: akirby (Jan 09, 2009 8:07 am) |
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I thought this was the place to get specifics about these vehicles. I understand that the hybird system would be about different, resulting in better mileage than Escape/Mariner hybrid. Instead, it seems most of the posting are about people being pushed off the road by wind, trade in values, etc. Where can I go to info on these cars? The lack of availability of Ford's hybrids is part of their economic woes. Instead of getting these out, they seem to have little interest in selling them. Instead they keep pushing SUVs and big trucks. They need to get their act together, if not, let them fail.
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