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Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [gagrice] by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (10:13 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 08, 2009 10:06 am)

OK, you are one person who has been.
 
Any others?
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Re: Expect a $10k premium on the hybrid Fusion [gagrice] by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (10:15 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 08, 2009 9:54 am)

Well, your bro-in-law is not a very good shopper if he said, "OK, this dealer wants $32K for the FEH Limited, so I guess I should just stop shopping."
 
He could have got one for far less money with a little footwork and a few internet quote requests.
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Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [gagrice] by kdhspyder
Jan 08, 2009 (10:30 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 08, 2009 6:56 am)

Having driven the Prius for 100,000+ mi now and the hybrid Camry for several very long trips I'd agree the the TCH and the FHH will both be better on the highway than the Prius. The wind buffeting is a minor issue except for the most sensitive.
 
However ( this is my own opinion only ) since the Prius was developed as a JDM vehicle with a view toward that type of slow-and-go driving I feel that the 1.5L engine is on the small side for the weight and size of the vehicle. As you note it's great at 50-65 mph but the efficiency drops off significantly at 75-ish mph. This is the reason IMO that the new Gen 3 will get the 1.8L engine with a combined hp rating of 160 HP.
 
The TCH on the other hand uses the 2.4L + HSD and it effortlessly gets 38-39 mpg at 75-ish mph - at least in my own anecdotal experience . The ICE is better matched to the vehicle for higher speed driving.
 
I assume that the FHH will be the same.
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Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [larsb] by iwant12
Jan 08, 2009 (2:45 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 10:13 am)

A friend at work recounted how his Z-71 was blown into the next lane on I-30 in Fort Worth. The winds, especially from the north, really whip in between the buildings down town. Luckily, there was no one in the lane next to him.
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Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [iwant12] by gregg_vw
Jan 08, 2009 (6:27 pm)
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Replying to: iwant12 (Jan 08, 2009 2:45 pm)

it may be one of the up sides to the Fusion being the very porkiest of the hybrid sedans (keeping the big Lexus out of it)...
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Re: Expect a $10k premium on the hybrid Fusion [larsb] by explorerx4
Jan 08, 2009 (6:30 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 10:15 am)

lars, maybe you don't know that the FEH is a low volume vehicle.
my wife wants one, but there a NONE to be found for hundreds of miles from me.
the dealers around here all say the same thing. 6 months to get one and it's MSRP.
there are plenty in SO CAL. one dealer has a couple dozen of the exact vehicle she is looking for. discount from the MSRP to 32k would more than enough to pay for a couple of plane tickets, but it is a stretch overall.
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Re: Expect a $10k premium on the hybrid Fusion [explorerx4] by texases
Jan 08, 2009 (6:37 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 08, 2009 6:30 pm)

"the FEH is a low volume vehicle."
 
That's my worry with the FFH - it may only be $3k more msrp, but it could be $6k more transaction price. THAT'S a premium I won't pay!
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Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [larsb] by explorerx4
Jan 08, 2009 (6:43 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 9:10 am)

me, forced off the road by wind? no, but i have seen plenty of others who have.
sometimes it is the wind combined with slick roads.
i do drive a fusion.
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Re: Expect a $10k premium on the hybrid Fusion [larsb] by gagrice
Jan 08, 2009 (9:31 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 10:15 am)

Well, your bro-in-law is not a very good shopper if he said, "OK,
 
He is a horrible shopper. I try to coach him. He just wants to go in and sign on the line. Been going to the same Ford dealer for 30 years or more. He should never trade either. There is NO WAY you will ever get top dollar from a dealer. You trade you get screwed simple as that. Unless of course the car is ready for the $1000 California buyout due to smog failure.
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Re: Expect a $10k premium on the hybrid Fusion [texases] by kdhspyder
Jan 09, 2009 (5:28 am)
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Replying to: texases (Jan 08, 2009 6:37 pm)

The pricing I can't estimate but Ford has already announced that the FFH won't be sold all over the country. It will be targetted to certain 'hot spot' markets which will get regular supplies. Other markets may get an ocassional or even no vehicles at all.
 
Ford, until it's JV with Johnson Controls/SAFT comes on stream, is limited on the supply of battery components it can secure.

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