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Replying to: gregg_vw (Jan 08, 2009 8:56 am) Have anyone of you EVER been forced off the road because of crosswinds???? Ever? In any vehicle? |
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 9:10 am) Doing a lot of wheel corrections v. doing fewer (or even no more at all) is what we are talking about here.
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Jan 08, 2009 9:35 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 7:36 am) You are a funny guy. Even using your 29 MPG for the hybrid and saving 38% it would take nearly 200,000 miles and over 12 years to make up that difference. That is with gas selling for $4 per gallon. At today's gas prices it would take 400,000 miles and 25 years to recoup that $10k. The real point is he just retired and will probably put less than 10k miles per year on the vehicle. There is not a chance he screwed up. The only reason I think he screwed up is it is too small. I was crowded in the back seat when he picked us up at the airport. He traded in his 2006 Explorer which turned out to be a much bigger gas hog than the 1996 Explorer he had before. Like me and my Suburban he was sad he ever traded the 1996 Explorer for a new one. Vehicles are just not as good as they were in the 1990s. At least the ones I have owned.
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 9:40 am) That is a harsh thing to say for a desert rat like yourself. I would not want to leave the city limits of Phoenix in a Prius. AZ where the wind blows most of the time. |
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 7:38 am) I assume you are joking again. I have never read a review of the Prius that did not complain about the nasty way it handles in a crosswind. I have watched one slow down to under 40 miles per hour in a 70 MPH zone on Interstate 8 because the wind was whipping him around like a leaf. Being aerodynamic does not mean it is stable. Remember airplanes are that way to get lift. That is what happens with the Prius it gets light in the front end when it gets in a crosswind. Where is Nader when you need him. He needs to do an update to Unsafe at any speed. 
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 9:10 am) You have led a sheltered life. I have stopped near Palm Springs in my Suburban and found a shelter until the wind died down. Two reasons you can get blown off the highway and your car will be sandblasted. Coming back in my Mercedes Sprinter from AZ we were all stopped by the Highway Patrol on Interstate 8 in any high profile vehicle. Semis were lined up for miles waiting out the wind. It is very common on I8 from the AZ border to just about where I live in Alpine. About a 200 mile stretch.
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 08, 2009 10:06 am) Any others?
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 08, 2009 9:54 am) He could have got one for far less money with a little footwork and a few internet quote requests. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 08, 2009 6:56 am) However ( this is my own opinion only ) since the Prius was developed as a JDM vehicle with a view toward that type of slow-and-go driving I feel that the 1.5L engine is on the small side for the weight and size of the vehicle. As you note it's great at 50-65 mph but the efficiency drops off significantly at 75-ish mph. This is the reason IMO that the new Gen 3 will get the 1.8L engine with a combined hp rating of 160 HP. The TCH on the other hand uses the 2.4L + HSD and it effortlessly gets 38-39 mpg at 75-ish mph - at least in my own anecdotal experience  . The ICE is better matched to the vehicle for higher speed driving. I assume that the FHH will be the same. |
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