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Re: Expect a $10k premium on the hybrid Fusion [gagrice] by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (7:36 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 08, 2009 7:16 am)

They could have got 29 MPG with the FEH AWD. That's the number at gh.com for that model. The 2WD is at 32 MPG.
 
So he is polluting more and paying more for fuel, but has a lower monthly payment.
 
He could have gotten about 38% better mileage with the Hybrid.
 
Tell him he screwed up. LOL !!!
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Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [gagrice] by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (7:38 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 08, 2009 6:56 am)

gary says, "I would say a vehicle like a Prius is marginal under those conditions. I would expect the Fusion hybrid to be good for all highway travel. "

What "areas on the other coast" are you talking about? Mountain ranges?
 
Why would a fusion, which is far less aerodynamic than a Prius, do better in high winds?
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Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [larsb] by gregg_vw
Jan 08, 2009 (8:56 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 7:38 am)

Crosswinds don't care much about front to back aerodynamics. Some of the more egg-shaped small cars are actually not so good in crosswinds. The Fusion hybrid is wider and weighs more. It will likely be better in crosswinds than the Prius.
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Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [gregg_vw] by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (9:10 am)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Jan 08, 2009 8:56 am)

Let me ask you. All of the readers here.
 
Have anyone of you EVER been forced off the road because of crosswinds????
 
Ever? In any vehicle?
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Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [larsb] by gregg_vw
Jan 08, 2009 (9:35 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 9:10 am)

And your point is?
 
Doing a lot of wheel corrections v. doing fewer (or even no more at all) is what we are talking about here.
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Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [gregg_vw] by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (9:40 am)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Jan 08, 2009 9:35 am)

My point is that anyone using the "well, I might get caught in severe crosswinds one or two times in my life, so maybe I ought to choose the Fusion/Milan over the Prius" decision point is a complete idiot.
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Re: Expect a $10k premium on the hybrid Fusion [larsb] by gagrice
Jan 08, 2009 (9:54 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 7:36 am)

Tell him he screwed up. LOL !!!
 
You are a funny guy. Even using your 29 MPG for the hybrid and saving 38% it would take nearly 200,000 miles and over 12 years to make up that difference. That is with gas selling for $4 per gallon. At today's gas prices it would take 400,000 miles and 25 years to recoup that $10k. The real point is he just retired and will probably put less than 10k miles per year on the vehicle. There is not a chance he screwed up.
 
The only reason I think he screwed up is it is too small. I was crowded in the back seat when he picked us up at the airport. He traded in his 2006 Explorer which turned out to be a much bigger gas hog than the 1996 Explorer he had before. Like me and my Suburban he was sad he ever traded the 1996 Explorer for a new one. Vehicles are just not as good as they were in the 1990s. At least the ones I have owned.
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Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [larsb] by gagrice
Jan 08, 2009 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 9:40 am)

to choose the Fusion/Milan over the Prius" decision point is a complete idiot.
 
That is a harsh thing to say for a desert rat like yourself. I would not want to leave the city limits of Phoenix in a Prius. AZ where the wind blows most of the time.
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Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [larsb] by gagrice
Jan 08, 2009 (10:01 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 7:38 am)

Why would a fusion, which is far less aerodynamic than a Prius, do better in high winds?
 
I assume you are joking again. I have never read a review of the Prius that did not complain about the nasty way it handles in a crosswind. I have watched one slow down to under 40 miles per hour in a 70 MPH zone on Interstate 8 because the wind was whipping him around like a leaf. Being aerodynamic does not mean it is stable. Remember airplanes are that way to get lift. That is what happens with the Prius it gets light in the front end when it gets in a crosswind. Where is Nader when you need him. He needs to do an update to Unsafe at any speed.
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Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [larsb] by gagrice
Jan 08, 2009 (10:06 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 9:10 am)

Have anyone of you EVER been forced off the road because of crosswinds????
 
You have led a sheltered life. I have stopped near Palm Springs in my Suburban and found a shelter until the wind died down. Two reasons you can get blown off the highway and your car will be sandblasted. Coming back in my Mercedes Sprinter from AZ we were all stopped by the Highway Patrol on Interstate 8 in any high profile vehicle. Semis were lined up for miles waiting out the wind. It is very common on I8 from the AZ border to just about where I live in Alpine. About a 200 mile stretch.

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