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What is this discussion about? Ford Fusion, Mercury Milan, Hybrid Cars, Sedan


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Re: Hi. Not a regular here. [explorerx4] by kdhspyder
Jan 08, 2009 (6:12 am)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 07, 2009 7:22 pm)

I think that may be WAY too broad a brush with which to paint that segment. If you preferenced it 'In my area it appears.....'
 
 
In this area that there are a lot of well-off middle aged women buyers, but also there are a lot of professionals - especially doctors, a HUGE segment of retirees, but the the majority is probably active military and ex-military families - mostly officers.
 
Yes the one of the fears of these first-time buyers is 'how long will the battery last?'. The data shows that there is no reason ever to have to replace the battery. Like anything else take care of it and it should last the life of the vehicle.
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Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [kdhspyder] by gagrice
Jan 08, 2009 (6:56 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 07, 2009 10:38 am)

I disagree, that's all. They all do wonderfully on the highway.
 
Probably they are ideal for your kind of 55-65 MPH level highways. On the other coast we have many highways posted up to 75 MPH with 8% grades. Cross winds that shut truck & RV traffic down for days at a time. I would say a vehicle like a Prius is marginal under those conditions. I would expect the Fusion hybrid to be good for all highway travel.
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Expect a $10k premium on the hybrid Fusion by gagrice
Jan 08, 2009 (7:16 am)
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If the economy stays in the tank and the Fusion Hybrid follows the Escape Hybrid it will be a big premium.
 
My brother in law just purchased a 2008 Escape AWD Limited in November. They wanted the Escape Hybrid. The only Escape hybrids available were 2009 models. They paid right at $22k for the loaded V6 Limited and Drew Ford would not go below $32k for the AWD Hybrid Limited. I doubt the hybrid will perform as well as the V6 and mileage is only marginally better. They are getting about 21 MPG with the car and love it.
 
They take about 3 trips per year to Washington where their son lives. They did not figure the 3 MPG highway gain with the hybrid was worth $10 grand.
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Re: Expect a $10k premium on the hybrid Fusion [gagrice] by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (7:36 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 08, 2009 7:16 am)

They could have got 29 MPG with the FEH AWD. That's the number at gh.com for that model. The 2WD is at 32 MPG.
 
So he is polluting more and paying more for fuel, but has a lower monthly payment.
 
He could have gotten about 38% better mileage with the Hybrid.
 
Tell him he screwed up. LOL !!!
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Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [gagrice] by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (7:38 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 08, 2009 6:56 am)

gary says, "I would say a vehicle like a Prius is marginal under those conditions. I would expect the Fusion hybrid to be good for all highway travel. "

What "areas on the other coast" are you talking about? Mountain ranges?
 
Why would a fusion, which is far less aerodynamic than a Prius, do better in high winds?
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Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [larsb] by gregg_vw
Jan 08, 2009 (8:56 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 7:38 am)

Crosswinds don't care much about front to back aerodynamics. Some of the more egg-shaped small cars are actually not so good in crosswinds. The Fusion hybrid is wider and weighs more. It will likely be better in crosswinds than the Prius.
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Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [gregg_vw] by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (9:10 am)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Jan 08, 2009 8:56 am)

Let me ask you. All of the readers here.
 
Have anyone of you EVER been forced off the road because of crosswinds????
 
Ever? In any vehicle?
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Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [larsb] by gregg_vw
Jan 08, 2009 (9:35 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 9:10 am)

And your point is?
 
Doing a lot of wheel corrections v. doing fewer (or even no more at all) is what we are talking about here.
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Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [gregg_vw] by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (9:40 am)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Jan 08, 2009 9:35 am)

My point is that anyone using the "well, I might get caught in severe crosswinds one or two times in my life, so maybe I ought to choose the Fusion/Milan over the Prius" decision point is a complete idiot.
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Re: Expect a $10k premium on the hybrid Fusion [larsb] by gagrice
Jan 08, 2009 (9:54 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 7:36 am)

Tell him he screwed up. LOL !!!
 
You are a funny guy. Even using your 29 MPG for the hybrid and saving 38% it would take nearly 200,000 miles and over 12 years to make up that difference. That is with gas selling for $4 per gallon. At today's gas prices it would take 400,000 miles and 25 years to recoup that $10k. The real point is he just retired and will probably put less than 10k miles per year on the vehicle. There is not a chance he screwed up.
 
The only reason I think he screwed up is it is too small. I was crowded in the back seat when he picked us up at the airport. He traded in his 2006 Explorer which turned out to be a much bigger gas hog than the 1996 Explorer he had before. Like me and my Suburban he was sad he ever traded the 1996 Explorer for a new one. Vehicles are just not as good as they were in the 1990s. At least the ones I have owned.

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