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Replying to: dmathews3 (Oct 13, 2009 2:09 pm)  Anyone heard anything about 2011 Milian Hybrids? Will there be one? If so what do you think will change?
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Replying to: bigt (Oct 14, 2009 10:35 am)
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Replying to: bigt (Oct 14, 2009 10:35 am) 
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Replying to: acdii (Oct 14, 2009 11:20 am)
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Does anybody know if it's possible to get a list of the top ranked cars according to the Edmunds consumer ratings? There would need to be a minimum number of reviews of course in order to do the comparison. My reason for asking is that I think the FFH would be very high on the list and I'm curious how it compares to other vehicles. It currently is rated a 9.5 with 79 reviews. Thinking about a few other vehicles with high satisfaction, I looked at Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, Toyota Prius, Porsche 911 - they are all lower. In case anyone would like to see the consumer ratings for the FFH, they are here: http://www.edmunds.com/ford/fusionhybrid/2010/consumerreview.html?tid=edmunds.n.- crrindex...1.Ford*
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Replying to: hoyafan (Oct 15, 2009 12:57 am) |
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Replying to: akirby (Oct 14, 2009 12:39 pm) |
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Replying to: bigt (Oct 13, 2009 5:36 am) On my 2008 FEH, I do not have the NAV, and there is no display of the charge at all. I have a scanguage II that tells me the SOC. The normal range is about 53 SOC, but it varies from 40 to 60 optimally, and a maximum of 30 to 66 SOC. There is some kind of temporary "recalibration" that has been reported at somewhere around 15-18K miles, but I haven't seen that on mine at 17.5K; when this happens the actual SOC goes to around 80. Many people think that the computer is evaluating the capabilities of the batteries and adjusting the SOC percentages, but all anyone can state for certain is that this procedure does occur periodically. It is hard to believe that Ford would be allowing the batteries to go that high as a percentage of the battery storage maximum. Are you sure this is State Of Charge (SOC)? On some vehicles the cars show a percentage of the "usable range" rather than the actual percentage that the batteries are charged. So if the batteries are at 100%, that may mean that they are charged to 60% of their capacity. So your "normal" 50% may represent around 50 SOC, and the 100% you saw displayed may be around 60 SOC. If you get a scanguage II you could check the actual computer reported SOC. I believe that Toyota does this by listing "bars" of power - the maximum bars do not represent that the batteries themselves are at maximum capacity, just at usable maximum capacity. |
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Replying to: acdii (Oct 13, 2009 6:06 am) Are you positive about that? The air conditioner compressors are electric, but that is very different from heaters. Electric heat is very inefficient when there is a very hot engine available to do the heating. I believe that there is a battery heater, which is electric, but not the main vehicle heater.
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Replying to: stevedebi (Oct 15, 2009 4:52 pm) |
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