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Re: Hybrid competition? [cary28] by dmathews3
Oct 12, 2009 (3:35 pm)
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Replying to: cary28 (Oct 12, 2009 2:59 pm)

That is a ll a MKZ and most Lincolns are just Fords with plush interiors and a couple extra toys.
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Re: Hybrid competition? [cary28] by bigt
Oct 13, 2009 (5:36 am)
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Replying to: cary28 (Oct 12, 2009 2:59 pm)

Oh I think there is a market for us. I also traded the MKZ in for the Milian HB. I miss several of the features but they are not a deal breaker. I recently have been sharing my Milian with my son and memory seats are really missed. Most of the other toys are there with Sync maybe it is the appointments and style of the MKZ that I miss however I am not willing to pay a Lexus HB premium and that is for sure.
 
BTW: There was some previous discussion about battery charge levels. I am also mystified on it. Here in DC this morning car was outside and iced up, got in turned on the front and rear defrost and drove off. About 1/2 mile later noticed my battery was almost at 100%. Go figure, other days even on the highway it is at 55% or so.
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Re: Hybrid competition? [dmathews3] by acdii
Oct 13, 2009 (5:59 am)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Oct 12, 2009 3:35 pm)

LOL What do you think Lexus, Infinity, or Acura's are? Nothing more than gussied up Toyota, Nissan, or Honda's!
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Re: Hybrid competition? [bigt] by acdii
Oct 13, 2009 (6:06 am)
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Replying to: bigt (Oct 13, 2009 5:36 am)

this morning car was outside and iced up, got in turned on the front and rear defrost and drove off. About 1/2 mile later noticed my battery was almost at 100%.
 
When it is cold enough to ice up, its cold enough for the cars ICE to run at a longer interval to heat up the emissions systems. You will find this more and more as the winter sets in and the engine will be running more than you are used to. Since its running, less battery is used, and while idling charges the TB up so you will see a higher SOC on the pack in the winter. Once the entire emissions system is up to temp you will see the engine cycling less, and eventually will shut off at stops until SOC drops below a certain level. The heaters on the Hybrids are all electric(at least on Toyota, should be the same on Fusion), and run off the traction batteries. Of course this will affect gas mileage, so don't expect to get anywhere near EPA when it is cold out. The TCH is rated 33/34, my warm weather average was up around 37, but in the winter I saw frequent drops to 28 MPG depending on how cold it was. It is best to use the automatic climate control during the winter as it manages the power better.
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Re: Hybrid competition? [acdii] by akirby
Oct 13, 2009 (6:08 am)
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Replying to: acdii (Oct 13, 2009 5:59 am)

What do you think Lexus, Infinity, or Acura's are?
 
I think Infinitys are speakers..........
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Re: Hybrid competition? [akirby] by bigt
Oct 13, 2009 (6:28 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Oct 13, 2009 6:08 am)

What is left of an infinity suv today that closed the GW Parkway in Dc for 5 hours. Driver coming from the club at 3:45 am going 100+ mph. Driver is in critical condition but his two passengers are dead.
 
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Re: Hybrid competition? [bigt] by akirby
Oct 13, 2009 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: bigt (Oct 13, 2009 6:28 am)

Infiniti, not infinity. Infiniti makes vehicles. Infinity makes speakers.
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Re: Hybrid competition? [acdii] by dmathews3
Oct 13, 2009 (2:09 pm)
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Replying to: acdii (Oct 13, 2009 6:06 am)

I've only been going about 2 miles to work and it runs on gas the whole way until I pull into the parking lot and the battery is pegged at the top.
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Re: Hybrid competition? [dmathews3] by larsb
Oct 13, 2009 (2:39 pm)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Oct 13, 2009 2:09 pm)

That is typical of hybrids - the engine must warm up completely and properly before the hybrid system operates at full efficiency.
 
If most of your commutes are that short, you are going to have problems getting great MPG for that trip.
 
Maybe an engine block heater would help - I have heard of hybrid owners having success with this tactic.
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Re: Hybrid competition? [larsb] by dmathews3
Oct 13, 2009 (5:16 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 13, 2009 2:39 pm)

The wife is to busy right now to deal with learning the ins and outs of the car so I'm driving it for a while till things calm down then she takes over. I'm spending my free time learning the ropes, programing my thumb drive to work with the USB and savings some CD's to the harddrive. When all the dirty work is done she will step in and take over.

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