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#7 of 76 I also believe by boaz47 Dec 04, 2008 (7:23 am)
That GM, Ford and Chrysler will get a bail out. GM and Ford may make a serious effort at developing EVs, Hybrids and Small diesels. Chrysler may go the way of Nash. The UAW will have to make a lot of concessions. The domestics will ask for import restrictions to improve the chances of a pay back on the bail out. The Koreans and the Chinese will market even less expensive entry level cars to the US. The Japanese will have to fight off Renault from taking over more of Nissan. The Big three may introduce CNG cars to hold them over and prove to congress they have a plan to reduce foreign oil dependance. BMW, MB and Porsche could take a beating in the US market. I can't think of any more because I got tire of tossing a coin. Replies to this message: lemko (Dec 04, 2008 7:28 am) boaz47 (Dec 04, 2008 7:37 am) bvdj84 (Dec 07, 2008 7:46 am) anythngbutgm (Dec 04, 2008 7:46 am)
#8 of 76 Re: I also believe [boaz47] by lemko Dec 04, 2008 (7:28 am)
Replying to: boaz47 (Dec 04, 2008 7:23 am) I can see MB and BMW taking a beating on the bottom end as the C-Class and 3-Series are mostly leased and there will be fewer pretentious young people willing to take on that burden in a dog-eat-dog economy. The kids that used to lease Bimmers and Benzes will most likely stick to their used Corollas and Civics for the time being, at least the smart ones will. Replies to this message: boaz47 (Dec 04, 2008 7:37 am) bvdj84 (Dec 07, 2008 7:46 am) anythngbutgm (Dec 04, 2008 7:46 am)
#9 of 76 Re: I also believe [lemko] by boaz47 Dec 04, 2008 (7:37 am)
Replying to: lemko (Dec 04, 2008 7:28 am) The kids that used to lease Bimmers and Benzes will most likely stick to their used Corollas and Civics for the time being, at least the smart ones will.   That is sort of what I was thinking. It seems as if the Germans may have been caught flat footed with this economy. VW could come to the rescue I suppose but people are looking for long term dependability in this economy and that has not been a strong point for VW in a very long time. If the economy doesn't improve and if the industry doesn't respond quickly this could be a great year for the used car market. Replies to this message: bvdj84 (Dec 07, 2008 7:46 am)
#10 of 76 Re: I also believe [lemko] by anythngbutgm Dec 04, 2008 (7:46 am)
Replying to: lemko (Dec 04, 2008 7:28 am) The C-class is in the top ten of the hottest selling cars out there (I believe it was 22 days on the lot). It's also cheaper than a CTS btw.
#11 of 76 Re: Jobs Bank [anythngbutgm] by steve_ HOST Dec 04, 2008 (8:38 am)
Replying to: anythngbutgm (Dec 04, 2008 4:44 am) That's what I hear too, but the spin is that the UAW can unilaterally suspend the Jobs Bank but would have to renegotiate the contracts to kill it. And they are saying that renegotiation is possible, so ....   There's a ton of bailout news on AutoObserver this morning.   Check out Do You Favor A Government Loan To The Detroit 3? too.
#12 of 76 by tlong Dec 04, 2008 (8:54 am)
1. GM gets bailout and some concessions, but sales continue to tank. More money wanted from Congress by midyear and more tough cuts again. GM in bankruptcy by end of '09. Wagoner is not fired by useless board until after BK. 3. Volt is abandoned. 4. Ford doing better. 5. Chrysler broken up for parts. 6. Honda and Mazda doing better than most. 7. Toyota faltering some, but not nearly as bad as GM. Replies to this message: berri (Dec 04, 2008 12:26 pm)
#13 of 76 Re: [tlong] by berri Dec 04, 2008 (12:26 pm)
Replying to: tlong (Dec 04, 2008 8:54 am) And maybe Nissan gets into trouble again as well as some of the lesser Japanese makes like Suburu (although they have some deals with Toyota), Suzki, etc.
#16 of 76 Here we go... by bpizzuti Dec 05, 2008 (12:39 pm)
Chrysler dies, GM abandons the American market, realizing that they don't know how to make cars Americans want to buy without taking a loss on it. Ford and Nissan have a bidding war over Jeep, and wake up to realize Hyundai bought it. Tesla buy's some of the abandoned manufacturing lines, and becomes a major car company. Tata buys GM, returns to the US market with the Chevy Nano, thereby reducing population pressures with a high accident rate from driving the lowered SS version.

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