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#50 of 108 Re: Green Car Advisor [pf_flyer]
Dec 04, 2008 (7:04 am)
Interesting post, but some printed facts bother others more than they do some of us. I didn't take into account the higher price of hybrids in my origional post. I figured many were already committed to hybrids so they wouldn't suffer any more than any other car.
#51 of 108 Re: November Auto Sales [imscf]
Dec 04, 2008 (7:10 am)
wow, it took a nosedive in prius numbers and a rocket shot in malibu (all models) numbers to have a 800 unit difference? malibu is suppose to be the savior of gm and their future bread and butter product. I consider it to be on par with the camcord. Tell me the malibu's number is incorrect.
#52 of 108 Re: Prius Sales Down 48% [kdhspyder]
Dec 04, 2008 (7:39 am)
again for the 27th time. The JY / US$ exchange rate stood at 94 / 1 yesterday !!!!! At this rate there is NO incentive at all to ship products form there to here
I'm not buying that. Why are the hybrids stacked up on the dealers lots? Yaris is up in sales YTD. It takes up as much room on the ship as a Prius. I think cheap gas has tempered the average buyers willingness to spend $5k to $10k more for a car that only gives marginal increase in MPG. What will a Prius do that a $12k Yaris won't do? They get easy 40 MPG highway.
#53 of 108 Re: Prius Sales Down 48% [gagrice]
Dec 04, 2008 (7:55 am)
Gary says, "What will a Prius do that a $12k Yaris won't do?"
Lots of stuff.
You get what you pay for. A $12K car is a $12K car, and a $26K car is a $26K car.
Never the twain shall meet.
#54 of 108 Re: Prius Sales Down 48% [gagrice]
Dec 04, 2008 (8:11 am)
What will a Prius do that a $12k Yaris won't do? They get easy 40 MPG highway.
Well, by the time you equip a Yaris nicely, that $12K car is more like a $16K car. And it's easy to get a Corolla up over $20K these days. The Prius, even in base form, is pretty well-equipped, so once you factor in the added content that narrows the gap.
Then consider the fact that the Prius, despite its awkward proportions and small-ish dimensions, actually is a midsized car. It doesn't have the shoulder room that your typical intermediate would, so forget about squeezing three across in back and having them comfortable. But for four good-sized people, it's probably about as comfortable inside as most intermediate cars, and better than the Corolla or Yaris. And the Prius's trunk volume, at 16 cubic feet, is actually generous for a midsize car these days. Some of them are only 13-14!
As for fuel economy, a Prius and Yaris might be close out on the highway, but in local driving, I'm sure the Prius would win out by a fairly wide margin.
So yeah, it comes at a price premium. But the Prius also gives you more standard equipment and more interior room, in addition to the improved economy.
#55 of 108 Re: Prius Sales Down 48% [andre1969]
Dec 04, 2008 (8:22 am)
I expected a smoother quieter ride for my $10k difference from the Yaris. Unless you are hauling lots of stuff the Yaris will do the job. If you want more room and 50 MPG, the new Jetta Sportwagen TDI will beat the Prius in every category that most people are thinking about for the same or less money. And their sales in this down market agree.
I would say hybrids have peaked and are headed down hill. Nothing from GM is worth buying. Ford Escape is a decent over priced hybrid.
#56 of 108 Re: Prius Sales Down 48% [gagrice]
Dec 04, 2008 (8:51 am)
Gary says, "I would say hybrids have peaked and are headed down hill"
Wishful thinking, Oh Great Diesel Sniffer. (LOL)
Hybrid sales are not directly linked to lower gas prices. Hybrids were selling just fine with low gas prices three years ago.
What has changed is "the ECONOMY, stupids." (Stupids with an "S" on the end to include all of us, myself included.)
Not just hybrids, but ALL vehicle sales are basically on the downturn. People are just not buying new cars when their homes are in foreclosure or they just got laid off or are worrying about keeping groceries on the table and a roof over their kids heads.
The downturn in sales will happen to the Jetta TDI also, once all the initial Diesel Worshippers get their cars.
#57 of 108 how many jetta tdi were alloted to the NA market?
Dec 04, 2008 (4:35 pm)
I don't think VW has shipped a lot of tdi cars over from the motherland this year. I have yet to see a new golf/jetta tdi on the road and I live in the birkenstock central of the eastern seaboard.
One thing the yaris can do and the prius can't: heel and toe shifting! And for that I will take a yaris 5 dr over a prius any given day. Car sat a prius for 3 months and hated every minute when I have to drive it.
#58 of 108 Re: Prius Sales Down 48% [larsb]
Dec 04, 2008 (4:55 pm)
At my job we have 5 Prius's and they get used to run all of our errands. For that they do a great job. But, if I were out buying a car right now, I have to say I would prefer a 14k dollar Elantra, and pocket the other 12k. I would never make up that difference in gas, plus I would get a 10 year warrantee over the Prius's 8.