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Does the current situation affect hybrid sales more?

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Re: I'm lost [gagrice] I'm wiser than Ever! [railroadjames] [gagrice] [kdhs [andre1969] by kdhspyder
Dec 01, 2008 (7:03 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 29, 2008 4:07 pm)

The Prius tires are just normal Goodyear Integritys which are run of the mill small vehicle tires. The first Gen Prius had special tires but the the current model uses tires that are also used on Corollas, Civics and others of this size.
 
Nothing special one way or another. $60 at Tire Rack.
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If the Prius by boaz47
Dec 01, 2008 (7:24 pm)
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was developed because of high gas prices it might have a dog in this fight. But it wasn't, it was the bone Toyota tossed at the American public to get their minds off of a zero emissions vehicle. At least that is what they were in California. Until the Prius CARB mandated a zero emissions vehicle by 2000 and right after the Prius came out the concept was trashed. Hybrids may have a place but there is no law they have to be ugly nor that they are the solution to our fuel useage. If, and there is always a if, there is a limited amount of oil to be drilled for then all cars like the Prius do is slow down that useage and with more drivers getting cars every year that slowing down isn't going to do much. They do not solve the problem and they are not zero emissions.
 
However back to the subject today gas was $1.88 for regular in Riverside, Ca. You would be very hard pressed to get the additional money a hybrid costs over their non hybrid counterparts. So unless I could get Insight fuel mileage why jump on any bandwagon? Hybrids need to optimism fuel mileage and if and when they do then it will not matter what fuel cost they will sell. When they get 15 to 20 percent better fuel mileage than their counter parts and in return cost 15 to 20 percent more they will not sell.
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Re: If the Prius [boaz47] by kdhspyder
Dec 01, 2008 (10:57 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Dec 01, 2008 7:24 pm)

This is wrong but don't let a lack of knowledge keep you from forming a solid misconception.
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November sales numbers? by larsb
Dec 02, 2008 (8:06 am)
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Anyone know why the November car sales totals have not been announced?
 
Google News shows not stories yet....WTH?
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Re: November sales numbers? [larsb] by bumpy
Dec 02, 2008 (8:24 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Dec 02, 2008 8:06 am)

The last four days of November were either holidays or weekends. Give 'em a day to count everything up.
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Re: November sales numbers? [larsb] by kdhspyder
Dec 02, 2008 (8:50 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Dec 02, 2008 8:06 am)

The official end of Nov was yesterday, Monday. When the calendar month-end hits on a weekend the Monday following is included in the prior month in order to gather all the weekend deals. In this case sales on 12-1 are actually included on Nov.
 
This occurs several times a year and all the vehicle makers agree to the procedure.
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Re: If the Prius [kdhspyder] by kenlw
Dec 02, 2008 (8:58 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Dec 01, 2008 10:57 pm)

"This is wrong but don't let a lack of knowledge keep you from forming a solid misconception."
 
which "this" are you referring to here?
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Re: November sales numbers? [larsb] by explorerx4
Dec 02, 2008 (4:24 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Dec 02, 2008 8:06 am)

the numbers are out there. everyone down about 30-45%.
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Re: If the Prius [kenlw] by kdhspyder
Dec 02, 2008 (9:51 pm)
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Replying to: kenlw (Dec 02, 2008 8:58 am)

The entire post essentially.
 
The post was inaccurate in attempting to sling mud at hybrids in general. The Malibu 2-Mode and the Camry hybrid and the Escape hybrid and the Civic hybrid and the GS 450h are not uglier than their non-hybrid counterparts. In fact they are no different. So that whole misconception is faulty.
 
The second paragraph is factually inaccurate as well except for the price of gas in Riverside.
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Re: Prius Stand the Tests [kdhspyder] by railroadjames
Dec 02, 2008 (10:31 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Dec 01, 2008 10:57 pm)

That's quite accurate and concise. Sez it all in just a very few words like...."Tis better to be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."
I don't mind the difference of opinion about the Prius but I do mind misinformation and negitive inuendoes by others. I speak with 95K miles under my belt in an '04 Prius. If someone doesn't like the styling or they think there's a bit too much road noise that's just fine but when the issue is a hybrid doesn't make itself worth the extra money I say baloney. I've saved in access of 10 Grand in gas money. Everyone reading this site must know that gas will rise again. It's just a matter of time. Funny..Remember when we all thought gas was high when it crowded 2 bucks 6 or 7 yrs ago? The resale of a Prius ranks up there with the best of em. Owners are consistantly glad owners. The car has a great track record and has been the receiver of accolades from just about every noteworthy critic and that is a fact that sez it all. I will be looking forward to the 3rd Gen Prius and any car that attempts to follow Toyota's lead to build quality, dependable and "smart, green " cars. I also have hopes that this country of ours gets back on its' feet soon so we can put the last few years behind us while learning from our blunders. Ever wonder if gas was just a buck and a half over these last 5 or 6 yrs we'd be in as much trouble as we are? Some might say that gas started it all. Who knows?

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