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#662 of 726 Re: What happened to Bob Baker Lexus? [gagrice]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Dec 13, 2009 (6:28 pm)
Bob Baker is listed under the Local Services tab.
Dealers have to jump through some hoops to get their inventory listed on the new vehicle pages or on the Dealer Locator / Quote service. Maybe they didn't re-up if you saw them there before and now they're AWOL.
#663 of 726 Re: What happened to Bob Baker Lexus? [steve_]
Dec 13, 2009 (6:46 pm)
I must have found them on that link before. I left my earlier impressions of our experience in the service department. Seems that my assessment was pretty accurate on their service.
#665 of 726 Re: What happened to Bob Baker Lexus? [steve_]
Dec 14, 2009 (3:09 pm)
does edmunds have anything besides the quote from the internet price dealer?
#666 of 726 Re: What happened to Bob Baker Lexus? [explorerx4]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Dec 14, 2009 (5:01 pm)
I don't know - hopefully the blog posts will fill out the rest of the story soon.
#668 of 726 now on their way back...
Jan 06, 2010 (7:40 pm)
At least 100 GM dealerships will be reinstated, Whitacre says
DETROIT -- Ed Whitacre, General Motors Co.'s chairman, expects at least 100 GM dealerships will be restored in the arbitration process mandated by a new federal law.
“I think a large number will get reinstated,” he said today in a meeting with reporters. “I think that's a given. It's in the hundreds.”
.....An arbitration judgment must be handed down by June 15. In bankruptcy last year, Chrysler rejected 789 dealerships, while GM said it would wind down 1,350 through October 2010.
GM used a “pretty arbitrary” cut-off point in choosing which dealers to reject and probably made some mistakes by cutting some good dealers and leaving some bad ones, Whitacre said.
.....Arbitration could restore good and bad dealerships, Whitacre said.
“The bad thing would be if they're a lousy dealer that has a lousy storefront and through some process they're put back in arbitrarily,” he said. “If they're a good dealer and would really push GM in a classy manner, like we want it done, then it would be really good.”
This is good news for dealers, but bad for GM in the long run I think.
Jan 06, 2010 (7:47 pm)
Chrysler is fighting it...
Chrysler asks court to block state laws favoring rejected dealers
WASHINGTON -- Chrysler Group has asked the U.S. Bankruptcy Court to pre-empt new state laws that seek to make it easier for rejected dealerships to win reinstatement.
Chrysler argued that new laws in four states will disrupt the company’s business prospects by forcing it to work with “in large part poor-performing dealers.”
.....“New Chrysler faces the prospect of immediate, severe and irreparable injury,” says the complaint, filed in the Bankruptcy Court in New York. The laws “completely undermine new Chrysler’s ability to develop the strong dealer network it needs to compete successfully in the automotive industry.”
I swear, the use of these names, New GM and New Chrysler, is so sickening I could just barf. New Chrysler, same as the old Chrysler except not taking responsibility for the swath of wrecked dealers, suppliers, you name it, in its trail. Ditto GM.
Apparently Chrysler wants to set up some network of high-performing dealers called Genesis. This will get in the way. Oh boo hoo.
#670 of 726 Re: so of COURSE [nippononly]
Jan 10, 2010 (6:31 am)
I still do not understand the logic used in pulling the contract from any of the GM or C dealers. Why not just let them die of natural causes. If they cannot sell the vehicles they are offered from the automaker they close the doors or find a better source from Korea or maybe China. If they were over crowded the best dealers should come to the top and the others go out of business. It has worked that way for a 100 years. Why is it any different today?
#671 of 726 Re: so of COURSE [gagrice]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Jan 10, 2010 (10:11 am)
Every state has their own set of dealer franchise laws that were implemented with the idea of protecting the dealers from the capriciousness of the manufacturers.
Some say the states went too far and there's too many restrictions on the manufacturers on what methods they can use to weed out their underperforming dealers.
The bankruptcy court is federal so its decision to let the banko automakers close some dealers overrode state laws. So the GM and Chrysler dealers did an end run and cried to Congress.
Not exactly pure capitalism (nothing is, eh?).