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Dude, where did all the dealerships go?

654 messages,  Last post on Nov 23, 2009 at 7:56 PM

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Re: One more going down.... [nippononly] by fezo
Oct 19, 2009 (4:19 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Oct 19, 2009 3:58 pm)

I don't know. Our local Chrysler - Dodge guy was spared and the Pontiac (RIP)-Buick-GMC guy was as well. Jeep and Chevy got the ax.
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Re: One more going down.... [nippononly] by steve_ HOST
Oct 19, 2009 (4:28 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Oct 19, 2009 3:58 pm)

What's the latest on the whole fracas with disgruntled former GM and Chrysler dealers trying to get their franchises back after they were canceled?
 
NADA is fighting. I'm not sure what legislative or public support they have (they are car dealers, after all....).
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Re: One more going down.... [steve_] by euphonium
Oct 20, 2009 (8:54 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Oct 19, 2009 4:28 pm)

"I'm not sure what legislative or public support they have (they are car dealers, after all....). "
 
This statement requires an explanation, & an apology, for it indicates an anti independent business attitude.
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Re: One more going down.... [euphonium] by steve_ HOST
Oct 20, 2009 (8:57 am)
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Replying to: euphonium (Oct 20, 2009 8:54 am)

Do I really have to explain the reputation, undeserved or not, of car dealers?
 
They are down there with lawyers, realtors and insurance agents.
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Re: One more going down.... [euphonium] by fintail
Oct 20, 2009 (12:03 pm)
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Replying to: euphonium (Oct 20, 2009 8:54 am)

You'll get that as soon as shady "independent" (often = inherited) businesspeople give an apology for the times they've operated in a void of ethics.
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Re: One more going down.... [fintail] by steve_ HOST
Oct 20, 2009 (12:24 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Oct 20, 2009 12:03 pm)

"When you look at state and local consumer agencies on the front lines, auto sales and service is always the No. 1 problem people complain about, year after year after year”
 
Car dealers want to evade thumb of new consumer protection agency (OC Register)
 
And that's a big reason why a lot of people don't care if a dealer closes.
 
Not every dealer is closing of course - and there's even at least one new one out there.
 
GM Opens First New Dealership in Illinois This Year ( dBusinessNews)
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Re: One more going down.... [steve_] by gagrice
Oct 20, 2009 (1:01 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Oct 20, 2009 12:24 pm)

Of course they can open a new dealership in Illinois. Obama gave all the welfare people hands full of money. Or at least they thought he was going to.
 
I do think it would give any GM dealer in Chicago that was shut down, a good case in court. This may also be a big expansion that was planned years ago.
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Re: One more going down.... [steve_] by euphonium
Oct 20, 2009 (1:03 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Oct 20, 2009 8:57 am)

As an independent insurance agent I enjoyed a commission only income that was better than the financial cocoon of all the other salaried positions out there.
 
This is also true of the lawyers who work on a percentage and real estate agents.
 
Then there are the meek, fearful, non risk takers who haven't the courage to operate their own business that often employ many others. They know what they haven't done to be envious of commission income producers.
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Re: One more going down.... [euphonium] by steve_ HOST
Oct 20, 2009 (1:09 pm)
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Replying to: euphonium (Oct 20, 2009 1:03 pm)

None of which has anything to do with whether car dealers have enough public support to get legislative support to force GM and Chrysler to reopen dealerships.
 
The car dealer lobby is strong, but not only are they fighting public opinion, I think the bankruptcy court trumps 'em.

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