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#603 of 653 Edmunds Chat! by KarenS HOST Jun 09, 2009 (5:04 am)
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#604 of 653 Re: 789 dealers [lemko] by michaell Jun 09, 2009 (8:54 am)
Replying to: lemko (Jun 08, 2009 7:53 pm) I had the opportunity to drive past the two closed C-J-D dealers this weekend. The one in my home town was empty (though, to be fair, this location was a satellite lot - the main dealer is up in metro Denver, so I suspect that they moved their stock to that site). The one in the next closest town had quite a bit of new and used cars on the lot - makes me wonder if they were going to transfer their inventory to a dealer that is staying open. Didn't seem likely that they could sell their cars in just two days (can't sell cars in Colorado on Sundays). Replies to this message: steve_ (Jun 09, 2009 9:43 am) dtownfb (Jun 09, 2009 9:52 am)
#605 of 653 Re: 789 dealers [michaell] by steve_ HOST Jun 09, 2009 (9:43 am)
Replying to: michaell (Jun 09, 2009 8:54 am) I think congressional pressure made Chrysler treat the closing dealers a bit better.   "They will have a limited number of days to submit their warranty and incentive claims for payment. Chrysler will redistribute the unsold inventory of defunct dealers to surviving dealers."   Last Call: Tuesday Is End of the Road for Some Chrysler Dealers (AutoObserver)   "The dealers being eliminated had 42,000 vehicles in inventory on May 14, when the automaker announced which outlets it would keep. The rejected dealers sold 16,000 vehicles through last month.   Those retailers can transfer vehicles to other dealers and get out of their loan obligations or be reimbursed for the price of the vehicle if they pay a $350 inspection and transfer fee. Chrysler has arranged to begin moving the transferred vehicles beginning tomorrow, said Carrie McElwee, a company spokeswoman."   Chrysler Guarantees Rejected Dealers Place for Autos (Bloomberg) Replies to this message: dtownfb (Jun 09, 2009 9:52 am)
#606 of 653 Re: 789 dealers [steve_] by dtownfb Jun 09, 2009 (9:52 am)
Replying to: steve_ (Jun 09, 2009 9:43 am) It would have been nicer if they had given them more time like GM is doing......
#607 of 653 Re: rootes [stickguy] by boaz47 Jun 09, 2009 (1:40 pm)
Replying to: stickguy (Jun 04, 2009 6:02 pm) "Plymouth Cricket, baby! "   first new car I had after getting out of the service. a little tank I thought. Nothing special and not very pretty but with the exception of the carbarator it was a dependable little car.
#608 of 653 the large soprano hasn't sung by steve_ HOST Jul 09, 2009 (5:39 pm)
House Committee Votes To Restore Terminated Dealer Franchises (AutoObserver) Replies to this message: gagrice (Jul 09, 2009 8:00 pm) british_rover (Jul 10, 2009 6:38 am)
#609 of 653 Re: the large soprano hasn't sung [steve_] by gagrice Jul 09, 2009 (8:00 pm)
Replying to: steve_ (Jul 09, 2009 5:39 pm) Now ain't that something? That seems much more fair. Let them die of their own mismanagement. Not the strong arm of the law. I never could see the advantage to getting rid of dealerships. Especially ones that were making money and selling vehicles. It seemed so anti competition to me. Replies to this message: british_rover (Jul 10, 2009 6:38 am)
#610 of 653 Re: the large soprano hasn't sung [gagrice] by british_rover Jul 10, 2009 (6:38 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Jul 09, 2009 8:00 pm) The dodge and Chrysler stores they axed in our area weren't selling new vehicles. Some of them only had three or four new vehicles on the lot and sold less then a hundred new cars a year. One of the dealers they shut down near me was a combo dodge Nissan store but I rarely saw any dodges on the lot. They would have a couple of trucks, a charger and they had a challenger at some point but that was it.   Oh and less then two miles away on the same road was a newer, larger Chrysler/Jeep store that also had a Buick, Chevy Pontiac, GMC franchise on the other side of their lot. Makes sense to shut down the tiny little dodge place and eventually give the larger Chrysler/Jeep store the dodge franchise.
#611 of 653 Can GM beat the dealer lobby? by steve_ HOST Jul 10, 2009 (6:43 am)
"We're working on new ways to make car buying more convenient for our customers, including an innovative new partnership with eBay in California to revolutionize how people buy vehicles online," GM CEO Fritz Henderson said at a press conference."   New GM Experiments With Car-Selling On eBay (AutoObserver)   "In 1999, a GM executive predicted that 80 percent of new-car buyers would be able to custom-order online by 2003; entrepreneurs began exploring the possibilities. The dealers lobbied for state bans on Internet sales by anyone but a dealer, and they won."   Time to Click and Drag Car Sales Into the 21st Century (Washington Post) Replies to this message: mikefm58 (Jul 10, 2009 10:42 am)
#612 of 653 Re: Can GM beat the dealer lobby? [steve_] by mikefm58 Jul 10, 2009 (10:42 am)
Replying to: steve_ (Jul 10, 2009 6:43 am) Good articles, I know this subject has been hashed out here extensively, but for me and I'd bet most of the educated consumers who read sites like Edmunds.com, the sales person is simply an order taker and provides no value add to the transaction. I'm not trying to be dis-respectful, but the vehicles I bought the last 10 years, I knew what I wanted, what I was willing to pay, and how I was going to pay it. The sales person did nothing but take my price to the SM and came back with a yes or no answer. A few trips back and forth to agree on the price, finalize things in the business office, and I drive away in a new vehicle. The sales person did nothing for me.

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