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Dude, where did all the dealerships go?

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Saturn Retailers Offered Penske Franchise by steve_ HOST
Jun 05, 2009 (11:04 am)
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"Penske, who became a Chevrolet dealer in Philadelphia in February 1965, had a Saturn franchise among his GM brands at a dealership in Bakersfield, Calif., in the early days of Saturn in the mid 1980s, but later sold all of the GM franchises. He later went onto build a publicly owned dealership group that now ranks as the No. 2 retailer of vehicles in the U.S. He also has dealerships outside of the U.S. GM prohibited publicly owned dealership groups from having a Saturn franchise.
 
Still, as a retailer, Penske has competed against Saturn dealers, who were carefully handpicked by Saturn when it was formed in the 1980s. Penske says, the best in the country and "are passionate about the brand." Those 200 Saturn dealers operating 350 outlets across the country, which employ about 12,000 people, will be offered a new franchise agreement with Penske. "We'll give each existing Saturn dealer an opportunity to sign on with our franchise," he said."
 
Penske: Envisioning Saturn as a Global Motors (AutoObserver)
 
And locally, Idaho’s Saturn dealer says GM's sale to Penske is a 'dream come true’ (Idaho Statesman)
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visoinary by stickguy
Jun 05, 2009 (12:11 pm)
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Wow, I only posted that idea yesterday, and Penske already "stole" it from me!
 
And I swear I hadn't read anything about his plan before I did.
 
makes a ton of sens though. Seperate the manufacturing and support/distribution for efficiency sake.
 
And it must coast a fortune to establish a dealer network, parts distribution, and also a brand name. None of the Euros were going to d oit, but having a chance to supply cars to "global motors?" That's a whole different story.
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Re: just saw [nippononly] by cadillacmike
Jun 07, 2009 (8:56 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jun 02, 2009 9:51 pm)

You're talking Marin County Calif and SF!
First off less than half or SF residents probably even have cars - it's probably the 2nd lowest rate of car ownership next to NYC, and it's full of US hating lefties. They probably don't even know that SF was THE major port of embarkation for the millions of US Soldiers in the Pacific theatre in WWII. I'll bet that less than 25 % of SF residents know what the Presidio was 70 years ago.
 
Strange, I still can't find a place to park when i'm there!!!
 
Then there's Marin county, probably the only place where home prices have risen in the past 5 years! and full of snobbish euro and lexus lovers. I've met some.
 
I've been there a few tmes to visit my sister in Pacifica (south of SF for those geogragraphically illiterate) and have been to Marin county and the wine country up further north. SF and Marin County are like night and day econonically, but they line up on the same side of the aisle politically... You can have it, no thanks. I'll take the hanging chads and the occasional Hurricane in FL, along with a lower sales tax and no income tax, and 4 Cadillac dealers within 30 miles of my home (assuming they all survive the cuts).
 
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Re: Saturn Retailers Offered Penske Franchise [steve_] by lemko
Jun 08, 2009 (9:30 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jun 05, 2009 11:04 am)

There WAS a Penske Chevrolet dealer in King of Prussia, PA. It went belly-up about a year ago.
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Re: just saw [cadillacmike] by lemko
Jun 08, 2009 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: cadillacmike (Jun 07, 2009 8:56 am)

I was in SF back in 2000. Nice clean city compared to what I'm used to. It seemed more like a large town rather than a city to me. The hilly streets reminded me a lot of NE Pennsylvania anthracite coal mining towns like Ashland and Pottsville. The only part that seemed like a city was the financial district. Haight-Ashbury can be compared to Philly's own South Street or a Bucks County town called New Hope.
 
Funny. When you watch movies like "Dirty Harry" and "Bullitt," they seem like a San Francisco in a parallel universe to the one we see today. We see the Disney-fied version of the City by the Bay today.
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Re: just saw [lemko] by boaz47
Jun 08, 2009 (1:15 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Jun 08, 2009 9:38 am)

And the tenderloin and water front streets and Wharf area? What part does that remind you of?
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789 dealers by tomcatt630
Jun 08, 2009 (2:13 pm)
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Back on topic.
 
Tomorrow is day when Mopars 789 dealers have to close. Anyone know some personally?
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Re: 789 dealers [tomcatt630] by andre1969
Jun 08, 2009 (2:32 pm)
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Replying to: tomcatt630 (Jun 08, 2009 2:13 pm)

Tomorrow is day when Mopars 789 dealers have to close. Anyone know some personally?
 
I've never bought a car from them before, but I did hear that Laurel Dodge in Maryland is closing. I remember awhile back, my coworker's mother bought a brand-new 1999 Intrepid from them. She had a perfectly fine 1994 with only ~30K miles on it, but she was going on some golfing tournament that weekend, and wanted a new car to show off in to her friends.
 
The dealer I bought my 2000 Intrepid from, Sheehy in Upper Marlboro, is still around as far as I know, but they did shutter their Chevy operations a few months ago, and now I think they're Dodge/Jeep/Chrysler.
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Re: 789 dealers [andre1969] by lemko
Jun 08, 2009 (7:53 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jun 08, 2009 2:32 pm)

The biggest Chrysler dealer near me is Gary Barbera Chrysler-Jeep on Roosevelt Blvd. I was in there and the place reminds me a lot of Towbin Doge on the short-lived show "King of Cars."
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Jun 09, 2009 (5:04 am)
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