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Dude, where did all the dealerships go?

654 messages,  Last post on Nov 23, 2009 at 7:56 PM

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Re: just saw [nippononly] by euphonium
Jun 03, 2009 (7:26 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jun 02, 2009 9:51 pm)

So who is left on Van Ness Avenue?
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Re: just saw [gagrice] by whatugiv
Jun 03, 2009 (7:38 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 03, 2009 7:15 am)

Right now there are 13 Chevrolet dealers in Arizona, I can think of 5 Pontiac, Buick, GMC dealers, and at least 5 Cadillac and Hummer dealers. All of these are within 50 miles.
I feel for the mom's and dad's filing the paper work, driving the courtesy shuttle, typing the warranty paperwork and servicing the customers. These are the people that are going to be hit the hardest when most of these places start shutting down.
Most of them have already cut back and laid off.
 
I am not a big fan of Ford but I really respect what they are doing as a company. The big 3 should grab their notebooks and go to class. They could learn something that would benefit thousands. And when its all said and done. Isn't that what it's really all about. Helping others?
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Re: just saw [whatugiv] by euphonium
Jun 03, 2009 (1:40 pm)
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Replying to: whatugiv (Jun 03, 2009 7:38 am)

"Isn't that what it's really all about. Helping others?" (a common "feel good" phrase)
 
Successful businesses give to charity so as to help others, but the most successful enterprise is one that plays "hard ball" & when its all said and done, that is what it's really all about.
 
Alan Mulally didn't get to where he is by helping Airbus when he was at Boeing.
 
In the business world today, fierce competition demands toughness.
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one dealer's perspective... by explorerx4
Jun 03, 2009 (2:10 pm)
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thanks to fezo for pointing me over to this site.
 
fitzmall
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Re: one dealer's perspective... [explorerx4] by gagrice
Jun 03, 2009 (2:48 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jun 03, 2009 2:10 pm)

There were 40,000 dealers in the 1950s? Hard to imagine that many are gone and going fast. I agree that eliminating dealers is a dumb move. If they go out of business because of poor business acumen or the economy, so be it. Axing dealers that are doing OK is crazy.
 
http://www.fitzmall.com/DealersAreNotTheProblem/DomesticDealersVsCarsOnTheRoad5-- 28-2009.pdf
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Re: one dealer's perspective... [gagrice] by bumpy
Jun 03, 2009 (3:11 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 03, 2009 2:48 pm)

There were 40,000 dealers in the 1950s?
 
That's not surprising. Back in the old days, there was a Chevy, Ford, Dodge, and AMC dealer here for about 7500 people. One by one, they fell out over the years until only the ca. 1919 Chevy dealer is left (it used to carry Olds, too), and that franchise may not be long for the world now.
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Dealers are applying the heat by steve_ HOST
Jun 04, 2009 (7:25 am)
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Dealers have long had political muscle and they are starting to flex it.
 
"I don't believe companies should be allowed to take taxpayer funds for a bailout and then leave local dealers and their customers to fend for themselves with no real notice and no real help. It's just plain wrong," continued Rockefeller who noted the roughly 2,000 Chrysler and GM dealerships being closed across the country put at risk more than 100,000 jobs."
 
GM, Chrysler Defend Dealer Cuts in U.S. Senate (AutoObserver)
 
For the conspiracy theorists, Rockefeller is a Dem.
 
The bankruptcy judge is having none of it.
 
Judge: Chrysler has good case for franchise cuts (Yahoo/AP)
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Re: just saw [euphonium] by nippononly
Jun 04, 2009 (8:09 am)
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Replying to: euphonium (Jun 03, 2009 7:26 am)

Well Toyota and Honda are still there on Van Ness, right where they have always been. Mercedes is still in the City too, and BMW, and I think Royal Motors is hanging in there too, for the Mazda/Audi/VW/Volvo fans among us, although word a little while back was that they were going to drop Volvo for some reason.
 
Not sure if there is a San Francisco Nissan? Haven't ever heard of one. But basically, it's only the domestics that are out of business on Van Ness Avenue, and the rest of San Francisco too.
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Re: one dealer's perspective... [gagrice] by andre1969
Jun 04, 2009 (10:56 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 03, 2009 2:48 pm)

There were 40,000 dealers in the 1950s? Hard to imagine that many are gone and going fast.
 
Heck, at one point in the 1950's, there were about 10,000 dealers that sold Plymouth! I believe that was more than any other brand, however, there is a reason. Back in those days, Plymouth was always paired with Dodge, DeSoto, or Chrysler/Imperial. Or sometimes, all three! There's a dealer a few miles up the road from me that used to carry Plymouth/Dodge/DeSoto/Chrysler/Imperial. When Chrysler restructured in 1960, having Dodge on its own and merging everything else, I think that's when they went to Dodge only. For most of my memory, they sold Dodges and Pontiacs, but lost the Pontiac franchise a few years ago. I think they sell Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep now. Well, for the time being at least.
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Re: one dealer's perspective... [andre1969] by lemko
Jun 04, 2009 (11:50 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jun 04, 2009 10:56 am)

For something really different - I was in Camp Hill, PA, (which is across the river from Harrisburg) and saw a sign with the Chrysler pentastar with the word "Rootes" below it. If you recall, Rootes was Chrysler's British subsidiary.

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