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653 messages, Last post on Nov 14, 2009 at 6:23 PM
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Replying to: boaz47 (May 31, 2009 12:48 pm) One thing that does seem to be taking hold because consumers like it is the one-price scheme, fixed no-haggle pricing below MSRP. Our local Ford store has had so much success with that, he is now the only Ford store left for miles in all directions! |
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the one-price scheme, fixed no-haggle pricing below MSRP. Our local Ford store has had so much success with that, he is now the only Ford store left for miles in all directions! Wake up! When the dealer declares one price no haggle - what you pay is a lot more than if you haggled. That's why he is now the only Ford store left for miles in all directions! Do you really believe the dealer's one price is his lowest price? 
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Replying to: euphonium (Jun 01, 2009 10:40 am) Lots of people seem uncomfortable asking for a cheaper price so maybe they like the one-price shop better. |
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What Steve said! Truth is, I would never shop at a one-price store, but most people prefer it. And even me, I am getting lazy as I get older. The internet thing is becoming my fave now, even though I realize that if I haggled in person I could squeeze a few hundred $$ more out of the price. That's not so different from a no-haggle store, except the "one price" is being quoted to me in cyberspace and I am going with the best one I get out of several dealers. |
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Replying to: nippononly (Jun 01, 2009 4:00 pm)
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for GM. They get to dump the "old" and walk away from massive liabilities without any sort of penalty whatsever. It's really quite incredible. Among the changes they are making going forward is that they are going to insist that some dealers with competing franchises in the same showroom eliminate them, or else the dealers themselves will have their franchise agreement terminated! GM already has informed 1,124 dealerships that they won't have their franchises renewed when the agreement expires on Oct. 31, 2010. Starting this week, an additional 200 dealers will get similar termination notices. GM is sending letters via Federal Express tonight to all 5,969 dealerships. Most of them will inform dealers whether they will retain their franchises and what changes they must make to retain their stores. Some dealers will be asked to remove competing franchises from their GM showrooms. Others might be asked to upgrade their stores.... http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090601/ANA02/906019914/1018- (registration link) Bankruptcy is sooooo convenient for GM. With the Dow jumping UP more than 200 points after the BK announcement today, I really question whether a government-funded Chater 11 was ever really necessary here - they should have liquidated the thing. Now even more dealers will get the shaft. Guess folks looking to open dealerships will be a lot more cautious about chasing a GM franchise in future.
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 01, 2009 8:54 pm) The thing that makes me wonder is now that GM went bankrupt we are being told we are the major creditors. If that is the case if I remember correctly not too long ago GM offered to make your payments for a number of months and only if after that time would the repossess your car. Now that we own them can we go and repossess a new GM car because they owe us so much money? Maybe we should get a Corvette while we can?  Now that the UAW owns part of GM will they be docking people's pay for being late? You know if we step outside of our personal discomfort zone on how this effects our economy and look at the big picture we can see the world for what it is. A place run by the keystone cops. When this whole thing first hit the fan people were in financial trouble and started losing their houses. People started losing their jobs and they were told that they would just have to learn to adjust. When the banks, wall street and the manufacturers got in trouble they simply turned to the very people that were losing their homes and jobs and asked them not only to forgive the loans but to give them billions of taxpayers money. Then the very companies we are supporting will lay off even more taxpayers and give their executives more bonuses? I take it back, not even the Keystone Cops could have come up with this plan. 
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Replying to: nippononly (Jun 01, 2009 9:00 pm) Nader had some things to say about this GM & C mess: The bankruptcy and the GM restructuring plan are the product of a secretive, unaccountable, Wall Street-minded government task force that assumed power because of a Congressional abdication of historic magnitude. By all rights, the restructuring plan should have been submitted to Congress for deliberative review and decision. Many, many jobs will be lost that could be preserved. There is reason to question whether too many plants and brands are being closed -- a matter that should have been taken up in Congress. Just the closing of hundreds of (GM and Chrysler) dealerships will cost more than 100,000 jobs. These sacrificed jobs will fray communities and impose enormous expenses on government entities that will have to provide unemployment and social relief, while suffering lost tax revenues. Victims of defective GM products may find themselves with no legal avenue to pursue justice. In the Chrysler bankruptcy, with complete disregard for the real human lives involved, the Obama task force and auto company have maneuvered effectively to extinguish the product liability claims of victims of defective cars. I think the consumer will be the victim in this whole mess. I agree that liquidation would hurt but for less time than the way we are going about it. Hopefully none of our posters have defective GM or C vehicles as of today. I don't think you will find any dealerships willing to repair them under warranty. Who will pay the dealer with GM in BK court? Will Barry send them a check? 
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Replying to: nippononly (Jun 01, 2009 9:00 pm) Bankruptcy is sooooo convenient for GM. With the Dow jumping UP more than 200 points after the BK announcement today, I really question whether a government-funded Chater 11 was ever really necessary here - they should have liquidated the thing. Now even more dealers will get the shaft. Guess folks looking to open dealerships will be a lot more cautious about chasing a GM franchise in future. I see it differently. If GM had filed cchap. 11 bankruptcy without government loans backing them, the Dow would have plummeted because they would have no chance of surviving and would have taken a ton of suppliers and dealerships with them. At least now they have a chance at survival and the dealerships and suppliers can be reduced in a less disruptive manner. Remember this whole thing is about saving as many jobs as possible. |
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