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Dude, where did all the dealerships go?

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Re: "I aim to make a fool out of Chrysler." [steve_] by oregonboy
May 29, 2009 (9:38 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (May 29, 2009 4:54 pm)

"I was a lonely teenage broncin' buck
With a pink carnation and a pickup truck,
But I knew I was out of luck
The day the music died.
 
I started singin',
"bye-bye, miss american pie."
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
Them good old boys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
And singin', "this 'll be the day that I die.
"this 'll be the day that I die."

 
- Don McLean
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Re: "I aim to make a fool out of Chrysler." [oregonboy] by steve_ HOST
May 29, 2009 (10:09 pm)
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Replying to: oregonboy (May 29, 2009 9:38 pm)

"I was a lonely teenage broncin' buck
With a pink carnation and a pickup truck,

 
That would be Napoleon Dynamite. Makes me glad I voted for Pedro.
 
It's a different flippin' world these days....
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Just musing here. by boaz47
May 31, 2009 (12:48 pm)
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But I believe part of the problem is that the manufacturers and dealers hardly ever listen to the consumers. Sure they made cars the consumers bought but did ever seriously consider how the consumer reacted to low cost daily transportation? The Koreans gained market share by offering low cost entry level transportation. Shoot even the Yugo sold a few cars because of cost alone. But the big boys didn’t care and things slowed down and even the Korean cars started creeping up in price.
 
Now the economy is in shambles and it doesn’t look like it will recover anytime real soon and the dealers somehow expect people to come in and plunk down 15 to 20k on a car?
 
The old days may be over and we may be about to enter a new era where the dealerships are no longer the service centers and salesmen are just clerks. Then again things could go back to what we once had and nothing will have changed. Nothing will have changed but the customers who will have learned from the rest of the retail industry that the old prices were too high and everything can be had at the sale price.
 
Still if the dealerships all went out of business and we got a new model would the consumer care?
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Re: I am sure there are people with more time to research this [gagrice] by dtownfb
May 31, 2009 (6:08 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (May 28, 2009 8:16 pm)

Not familair with Chicago politics and really hate talking politics for too long. It gets my blood pressure up and resolves nothing.
 
We are closer than you think in our way of thinking. All we can hope for now is to get out of the auto industry as quick as possible.
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Re: I am sure there are people with more time to research this [dtownfb] by oregonboy
May 31, 2009 (7:23 pm)
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Replying to: dtownfb (May 31, 2009 6:08 pm)

I predict that we will be out of the auto industry before we're out of Iraq.
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Re: Just musing here. [boaz47] by nippononly
May 31, 2009 (8:26 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (May 31, 2009 12:48 pm)

I don't think the model for car sales that currently exists will change much, even with this large-scale attrition we are witnessing and the additional GM and Chrysler stores they are about to cut loose.
 
One thing that does seem to be taking hold because consumers like it is the one-price scheme, fixed no-haggle pricing below MSRP. Our local Ford store has had so much success with that, he is now the only Ford store left for miles in all directions!
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One Price takes the sport and wit out of buying. by euphonium
Jun 01, 2009 (10:40 am)
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the one-price scheme, fixed no-haggle pricing below MSRP. Our local Ford store has had so much success with that, he is now the only Ford store left for miles in all directions!
 
Wake up! When the dealer declares one price no haggle - what you pay is a lot more than if you haggled. That's why he is now the only Ford store left for miles in all directions!
 
Do you really believe the dealer's one price is his lowest price?
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Re: One Price takes the sport and wit out of buying. [euphonium] by steve_ HOST
Jun 01, 2009 (10:52 am)
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Replying to: euphonium (Jun 01, 2009 10:40 am)

Well, if people could haggle cheaper prices, you'd think the no-haggle Ford store would be the first to close since everyone else would be cheaper.
 
Lots of people seem uncomfortable asking for a cheaper price so maybe they like the one-price shop better.
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yeah by nippononly
Jun 01, 2009 (4:00 pm)
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What Steve said!
 
Truth is, I would never shop at a one-price store, but most people prefer it. And even me, I am getting lazy as I get older. The internet thing is becoming my fave now, even though I realize that if I haggled in person I could squeeze a few hundred $$ more out of the price. That's not so different from a no-haggle store, except the "one price" is being quoted to me in cyberspace and I am going with the best one I get out of several dealers.

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