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Replying to: dtownfb (May 23, 2009 5:59 pm) If the competition doesn’t have the legacy costs of the domestics we either have to remove the legacy costs to allow the domestics to compete or place a tariff on imports to balance the legacy costs. Neither of those two things seem to be happening so let them fail and get on with life. We have used our children’s earning power like a credit card to save the investment bankers already and they simply thumbed their noses at us. They took several million dollars in bonuses for causing the mess in the first place paid with our tax money. Now we are being asked to save the least trusted people in the US, car salesmen and the most bloated workers in the US the UAW with our grandchildren’s future earning power? Has anyone stopped to ask why Honda can make a car people will buy made in the Us by US workers without union workers and Chrysler can’t with union workers? Do we see what the problem might be there? If we believe in capitalism we should allow the dealers that can’t make it to close. If we believe in socialism then let the government do as they wish just keep out of their way. That is what the USSR did before it collapsed; they supported state manufacturing and dealerships. But they aren’t listening to us anyway so we can just sit back and wait till the smoke clears. |
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Replying to: boaz47 (May 23, 2009 9:52 pm) We have a new bike shop in Alpine. Big sign out front we repair WalMart bikes. So at least the repair business is getting healthier for cars and bikes. If we believe in capitalism we should allow the dealers that can’t make it to close. I agree with that. I don't like the way that GM and C are using some unknown formula to strip dealers of their businesses. If they go out of business because they have alienated their customers, I say good riddance. There are many cases of healthy dealerships being stripped of their franchises, leaving them with 100s of vehicles they can no longer sell as new, because they are not legitimate dealers. Will the tax payers get stuck with those when they get picked up by the bank? Every where you turn you see bigger messes made by the government being involved in business. So I am on the let capitalism work side. Keep government out of business except to make laws that protect US from predators.
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Replying to: gagrice (May 24, 2009 5:05 am)
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Replying to: boaz47 (May 23, 2009 9:52 pm) 
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Replying to: lemko (May 24, 2009 7:27 am) |
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Replying to: gagrice (May 24, 2009 5:05 am) I agree with that. I don't like the way that GM and C are using some unknown formula to strip dealers of their businesses. If they go out of business because they have alienated their customers, I say good riddance. There are many cases of healthy dealerships being stripped of their franchises, leaving them with 100s of vehicles they can no longer sell as new, because they are not legitimate dealers. Will the tax payers get stuck with those when they get picked up by the bank? Every where you turn you see bigger messes made by the government being involved in business. So I am on the let capitalism work side. Keep government out of business except to make laws that protect US from predators. I said when they announced the dealership closing that this would be ugly. I think some GM and Chrysler execs may have had an axe to grind with some of those dealerships. I agree, some of these closings don't make sense. Generally, I agree government should stay out of business but this is an extreme situation and GM and chrysler came begging for money. A failure by GM and Chrysler back in December would have taken Ford as well since most of the supliers would have also went belly up. This is an unprecedented situation. Not sure if it is right or wrong. Don't know how it will affect things in the future. I have a hard time believing any of the talking heads on TV right now. They are all guessing. |
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"I'm too stubborn to quit and I'm too stupid to go away," said the owner of Richard Chrysler-Jeep-Dodge in the western Chicago suburb of St Charles. "I'm going to keep selling cars and fight this to the end." Chrysler dealer vows to fight to the finish (Reuters)
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Replying to: steve_ (May 25, 2009 7:19 pm) My guess is Obama had his ACORN goons hit all the businesses for donations and there is a list. This guy was on the list and he gets nicked. Being a Republican in Chicago cannot be a good existence. I would rather be stuck in grass hut in darkest Africa as Chicago.
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Replying to: gagrice (May 25, 2009 7:44 pm) The other one I see is a John Massarelli, an IL options trader who gave $1,000 to a PAC. There's a retired Massarelli, but she was a Clinton donor over in PA. Don't see a Rocco anywhere. FundRace 2008 Opensecrets.org
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