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#33 of 650 Re: Last night [boaz47] by explorerx4 Nov 22, 2008 (8:51 am)
Replying to: boaz47 (Nov 22, 2008 7:38 am) kind of reminds me of a few years ago, when chrysler went crazy producing vehicles in anticipation of a possible strike. in the detroit area, it seemed like every available previously open lot was filled with chryslers.
#34 of 650 Re: Last night [boaz47] by steve_ HOST Nov 22, 2008 (9:01 am)
Replying to: boaz47 (Nov 22, 2008 7:38 am) Now there's an idea - all those containers that have been shipped over here from China over the years are just stacked up. Too expensive to ship 'em back empty. So just park a car or two in each one and stack them up. That'll keep the cars out of the weather, keep the acid rain off of them, protect them from vandalism, etc.   Stick some T-111 siding on the containers and you can sell every car complete with its own garage.
#35 of 650 Re: Last night [boaz47] by nippononly Nov 22, 2008 (12:33 pm)
Replying to: boaz47 (Nov 21, 2008 10:08 pm) What I meant was that all cars spend a little time sitting there, so ones like the Prius, which is still selling well, would still spend a few days there. Of course I didn't mean to imply that the thrust of the article was wrong - some cars are spending months sitting there. But even now Toyota dealers don't have big stocks of Corollas, Yarises, and Priuses. They just finally have a few to sell, after a summer of having none of any of those models.   Honda and Toyota are both running extra incentive programs right now that are unusual in their timing (Honda in particular is usually as regular as clockwork). I wonder if it is helping their dealers at all. Will GM be able to continue doing the same thing for its dealers if the money doesn't come through from Congress in December?   I wish there were an easy way to look up the mix of import vs domestic dealers that are disappearing. We lost our Nissan dealer in my county about two years ago, another one that just went in the middle of the night. But the one in the next county over actually ended up expanding his business as a result. Aside from that, I can't think of any import dealers we have lost locally. Replies to this message: duke23 (Jan 06, 2009 8:41 pm) gagrice (Jan 06, 2009 8:53 pm) nippononly (Jan 06, 2009 9:57 pm) and 1 more...
#36 of 650 Re: Dude, where did all the dealerships go?? [nippononly] by gagrice Nov 22, 2008 (2:18 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Nov 20, 2008 8:42 am) Should those dealers that are struggling get a piece of the bailout pie?   I think the dealers should be ahead of the Big 3 corporate for handouts. After all they are stuck with what ever crap the automaker sends them. They can't sell what no one wants. They are the first to lose money. They probably are not even considered because they don't have a large voting block. Replies to this message: boaz47 (Nov 22, 2008 6:53 pm)
#37 of 650 Re: Dude, where did all the dealerships go?? [gagrice] by boaz47 Nov 22, 2008 (6:53 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Nov 22, 2008 2:18 pm) And that is the problem isn't it? When you don't have a big voice your choices are limited. They simply go out of business.
#38 of 650 I'm wondering... by jchan2 Nov 22, 2008 (8:16 pm)
if those port cars are '09s or '08s.. And, I still wonder to this day what happened to all those Chrysler cars parked in the Detroit area parking lots... Replies to this message: boaz47 (Nov 23, 2008 3:54 pm) lemko (Nov 24, 2008 5:33 am)
#39 of 650 Re: I'm wondering... [jchan2] by boaz47 Nov 23, 2008 (3:54 pm)
Replying to: jchan2 (Nov 22, 2008 8:16 pm) "if those port cars are '09s or '08s.. And, I still wonder to this day what happened to all those Chrysler cars parked in the Detroit area parking lots..."   Could be some of both. At 90 days some of them got there late August. But I would imagine the same thing will happen with these cars as the Chryslers you talked about, big discounts when they start flowing. At least they should be discounted after sitting that long.
#40 of 650 Re: I'm wondering... [jchan2] by lemko Nov 24, 2008 (5:33 am)
Replying to: jchan2 (Nov 22, 2008 8:16 pm) I wonder if there's a picture from back in the day with a lot filled with R-bodies? It would be like andre1969's version of heaven.
#41 of 650 dealer networks by mattandi Nov 24, 2008 (9:37 am)
Here is what we have locally. Three companies, family owned and operated for the most part, have dealerships covering most of the nameplates. For example, Flow Motors has lots for Acura, Audi, Subaru, Volkswagen, Suzuki, Honda, Chevrolet, Saturn, Hummer, Saab, GMC, Pontiac, Buick, and Cadillac. The Modern dealerships are owned by the Fowler family. They have lots for Nissan, Infinity, Toyota, Lexus, Scion, Chevy, and Hyundai. The Bob King group has lots for Mazda, Kia, Hyundai, and Mitsu. FoMoCo and Chrysler are not a part of any of these big groups, but one private partnership has a few FoMoCo lots.   I am wondering if such dealer consolidation (diversification?) will help protect the companies and help them weather the storm. Is this type of situation common elsewhere? I notice it in the nearby cities. We haven't lost a new car dealer in a while locally. Just last week though, a Dodge dealer announced their closing after 40 years in business. They were one of the few remaining stand alone Dodge dealers left anywhere, so I guess the writing has been on the wall for a while for them. Replies to this message: nippononly (Nov 24, 2008 9:46 am)
#42 of 650 Re: dealer networks [mattandi] by nippononly Nov 24, 2008 (9:46 am)
Replying to: mattandi (Nov 24, 2008 9:37 am) I am wondering if such dealer consolidation (diversification?) will help protect the companies and help them weather the storm   Yes, I have been thinking it would do just that, and that is one thing I think some bailout money could be put towards - helping them to do that.   With the $20 billion we gave Citibank yesterday, their total is now at $45 billion. Just think how many struggling dealers you could help with a sum of money like that. And that would still be less than they are proposing to give to automakers, who will take the money and make it disappear, only to be back at our door asking for more next year....

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