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Dude, where did all the dealerships go?

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Last night by boaz47
Nov 21, 2008 (6:16 pm)
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The news had a picture of the Port of LA harbor. The lots were full of cars, imported, and they were not moving. It was either NBC or CBS I don't remember which. The did a brief special on the problem. The largest premium foreign car dealer in Orange county just closed. There are more than domestic dealers taking a hit. he OC register said:
"At least nine Orange County auto dealers – selling Chevrolets, Chryslers, Dodges, Nissans, Saturns and other brands – have closed since January, brought down by sluggish sales and tight credit."
 
 It isn't likely to get better anytime soon and I wouldn't be surprised if more dealerships close. But the used car market should blossom.
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Re: Last night [boaz47] by steve_ HOST
Nov 21, 2008 (6:31 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Nov 21, 2008 6:16 pm)

This one is Long Beach (maybe the same place?).
 

 
Imported vehicles piling up at ports of entry
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I'm surprised by jchan2
Nov 21, 2008 (8:02 pm)
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to see a few Priuses in that lot- aren't those selling well, despite the slump?
 
I would think that Toyota would want to get those Priuses out of the port and into dealers...
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Re: I'm surprised [jchan2] by nippononly
Nov 21, 2008 (9:52 pm)
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Replying to: jchan2 (Nov 21, 2008 8:02 pm)

Everything imported sits in those lots for a few days, they have to clear customs or something.
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Re: Last night [steve_] by boaz47
Nov 21, 2008 (10:08 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 21, 2008 6:31 pm)

Yes, that looks like the Vincent Thomas Bridge in the back ground. But that is only a small part of the number of cars there. I can remember when those lots were almost empty at least half of the time. It is pretty much as Nippon posted earlier in a forum about Toyota, even they are suffering. No new cars are selling well, some are selling but there is a glut in the California market. Nissan is even worse off from what I have been reading. The news said the dealers simply don't have room for them so they are sitting there in that salt air for 60 to 90 days. It is absolutely true the domestics are being hurt and the domestic dealers are suffering but the imports didn't escape and we can't see the end of the tunnel yet. This is not the normal turn around that those of us living in this area have seen for years. But then the News could be just pushing our buttons. But Edmunds published the article and when they say MB has had cars there for a few months that is more than two. This is way beyond clearing customs. Just read the article it sounds pretty much like what the News said.
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Re: Last night [boaz47] by steve_ HOST
Nov 21, 2008 (10:40 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Nov 21, 2008 10:08 pm)

so they are sitting there in that salt air for 60 to 90 days.
 
I'm sure they are well protected with Cosmoline.
 
Every tire is probably pumped up to 60 psi too.
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Re: Last night [steve_] by boaz47
Nov 22, 2008 (7:38 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 21, 2008 10:40 pm)

I'm sure they are well protected with Cosmoline.
 
Hahaha. They do put a plastic cover of some kind on the hood and trunk I believe. But the roof is pretty much unprotected. We used to live in the area and the air is a killer on paint jobs. After a week you would have thought we had been off road in our car. I used to wash my car at least once a week.
 
But it is a strange site to see those lots so full. The article pretty much indicates that the manufacturers are trying to rent space form the container yards. US lines, Matson, Meserk, Sea Train are all down there. There is just no space to store all of those cars and the dealers don't want them. Like the one truck driver said they can't even take them out of state because those dealers no longer want them.
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Re: Last night [boaz47] by explorerx4
Nov 22, 2008 (8:51 am)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Nov 22, 2008 7:38 am)

kind of reminds me of a few years ago, when chrysler went crazy producing vehicles in anticipation of a possible strike.
in the detroit area, it seemed like every available previously open lot was filled with chryslers.
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Re: Last night [boaz47] by steve_ HOST
Nov 22, 2008 (9:01 am)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Nov 22, 2008 7:38 am)

Now there's an idea - all those containers that have been shipped over here from China over the years are just stacked up. Too expensive to ship 'em back empty. So just park a car or two in each one and stack them up. That'll keep the cars out of the weather, keep the acid rain off of them, protect them from vandalism, etc.
 
Stick some T-111 siding on the containers and you can sell every car complete with its own garage.
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Re: Last night [boaz47] by nippononly
Nov 22, 2008 (12:33 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Nov 21, 2008 10:08 pm)

What I meant was that all cars spend a little time sitting there, so ones like the Prius, which is still selling well, would still spend a few days there. Of course I didn't mean to imply that the thrust of the article was wrong - some cars are spending months sitting there. But even now Toyota dealers don't have big stocks of Corollas, Yarises, and Priuses. They just finally have a few to sell, after a summer of having none of any of those models.
 
Honda and Toyota are both running extra incentive programs right now that are unusual in their timing (Honda in particular is usually as regular as clockwork). I wonder if it is helping their dealers at all. Will GM be able to continue doing the same thing for its dealers if the money doesn't come through from Congress in December?
 
I wish there were an easy way to look up the mix of import vs domestic dealers that are disappearing. We lost our Nissan dealer in my county about two years ago, another one that just went in the middle of the night. But the one in the next county over actually ended up expanding his business as a result. Aside from that, I can't think of any import dealers we have lost locally.

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