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Dude, where did all the dealerships go?

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But we are waiting to see who blinks first. by boaz47
Mar 11, 2009 (3:18 pm)
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With all of these cars piling up on Ships and is storage lots and at the manufacturers test tracks and parking lots what can the do? No one will pay MSRP for a 2008 if the credit doesn't open till 2010. They will not pay MSRP for a 2009. Not when the consumer knows there is a backlog of cars just sitting there getting older by the minute. But there is a double whammy if the dealers and manufacturers blink first.
 
If you start unloading all that excess inventory, and there are plenty of Nissans, Toyotas and Hondas out there as well as domestics, and you price them as Nippon suggests at half price who will be in the market for a new car in the next three years? No one in their right mind will pay 28k for a new 2010 or 2011 Prius if they know there are more then enough 2009s sitting on the dock in LA. (the pictures have been posted.) Same goes with any model of any excess car. none of that will help the dealers however.
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Re: But we are waiting to see who blinks first. [boaz47] by fezo
Mar 11, 2009 (3:21 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Mar 11, 2009 3:18 pm)

81 cars vanish from Neb. dealership "Investigators suspect inside job."
 
Gee, ya think?
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Re: But we are waiting to see who blinks first. [boaz47] by nippononly
Mar 11, 2009 (3:30 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Mar 11, 2009 3:18 pm)

and you price them as Nippon suggests at half price
 
I only suggested that for GM cars, to get our money back from the massive bailout, and it was said in jest!
 
8 years of aggressively pulling forward sales with massive rebates, discounts, and whatnot sure has a profound effect.....I think the forecasts of 2000 dealers going out of business this year will prove low in the end.
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Re: But we are waiting to see who blinks first. [nippononly] by boaz47
Mar 11, 2009 (8:22 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Mar 11, 2009 3:30 pm)

But what are you going to do with the Excess Toyotas, Hondas and Nissans? They are all still making cars and the storage is piling up. How will they price over stock from 2008 and 2009 in 2010?
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Re: But we are waiting to see who blinks first. [boaz47] by nippononly
Mar 11, 2009 (8:31 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Mar 11, 2009 8:22 pm)

Oh there won't be much, boaz. Not from the Japanese 3. They have already cut or entirely halted production in many places overseas (and here as well, the folks at NUMMI are facing big cutbacks on their work schedules for instance). We will see them only produce half as many vehicles as usual for the '09 model year.
 
As for '08s I think Toyota was the only one caught flat-footed there, and they will have to offer $2000+ rebates on leftover '08s, which they are already doing. I think we will see them go well before 1-1-2010.
 
But dealers face a year of cutthroat competition with each other, I would guess. So much for profit margins on new car sales.
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Re: But we are waiting to see who blinks first. [boaz47] by gagrice
Mar 11, 2009 (8:36 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Mar 11, 2009 8:22 pm)

Here is my question. You have 100s or 1000s of hybrids sitting stored without charging the batteries and a NiMH battery will go bad quickly. They do not do well discharged and especially if it is cold. A month will not hurt anything past that it is anyone's guess.
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Re: But we are waiting to see who blinks first. [boaz47] by lemko
Mar 12, 2009 (5:54 am)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Mar 11, 2009 3:18 pm)

If those cars are near a marine environment, the salty air can't be good for them. Wouldn't it be weird if they shipped 'em back to Asia? Are there a lot of MBs piling up on docks on the other coast? Maybe now's an awesome time to make a heck of a deal on a S550 or E-Class that might otherwise rot on a dock?
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Re: But we are waiting to see who blinks first. [lemko] by bvdj84
Mar 12, 2009 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Mar 12, 2009 5:54 am)

I would love to take advantage of a deal, perhaps get out of my current leased GM, but that might be a small chance....
 
My dealer sells VW too, I thinking of doing that. My trade in might be too low.
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Re: But we are waiting to see who blinks first. [nippononly] by boaz47
Mar 12, 2009 (8:40 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Mar 11, 2009 8:31 pm)

"Oh there won't be much, boaz. Not from the Japanese 3."
 
Motor Intelligence reported in February that Toyota sales were off 35.9 percent in the US. And Europe doesn’t look any better. Nissan was off 33.6 percent as of February. Now with the pictures posted of storage at the end of the year in 08. And with sales flat right now? How will they dump the cars?
 
  
 
http://www.businessinsider.com/unsold-cars-around-the-world-2009-2
 
I say hold off and wait till the prices drop like ripe fruit. In consumers simply hold off till the 2010s hit the market the prices will have to drop. Or the companies will have to make artificial reefs with the left over cars. The cars are being stored in shipping lots and receiving lots, container ships. And the world isn’t buying.
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Re: But we are waiting to see who blinks first. [boaz47] by lemko
Mar 12, 2009 (9:15 am)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Mar 12, 2009 8:40 am)

I got a good idea for all those unused cars! Let's make the ULTIMATE remake of "Gone in 60 Seconds!"

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