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Dude, where did all the dealerships go?

654 messages,  Last post on Nov 23, 2009 at 7:56 PM

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Re: did anyone notice this one? [lemko] by nippononly
Mar 11, 2009 (8:14 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Mar 11, 2009 6:22 am)

That's what I was wondering.
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Re: did anyone notice this one? [lemko] by dtownfb
Mar 11, 2009 (8:24 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Mar 11, 2009 6:22 am)

Wouldn't the vehicle go back to the manufacturer? Maybe he was upset with the manufacturer over floorplanning and wanted to send a message?
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Re: did anyone notice this one? [lemko] by gagrice
Mar 11, 2009 (8:46 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Mar 11, 2009 6:22 am)

He hated Buicks & Pontiacs
 
I think the IRS and government meddling in business was probably his motivation. It is getting so much worse trying to go into any kind of business.
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Re: did anyone notice this one? [gagrice] by lemko
Mar 11, 2009 (8:51 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Mar 11, 2009 8:46 am)

Shoot, I'd have taken those Buicks off his hands for him! As for the Pontiacs...eh...not much I care about except for the G8 GT.
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Not too much of a surprise here by michaell
Mar 11, 2009 (1:32 pm)
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I guess if you're going to steal, this is the way to get the most bang for your buck:
 
LA Times Article
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But we are waiting to see who blinks first. by boaz47
Mar 11, 2009 (3:18 pm)
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With all of these cars piling up on Ships and is storage lots and at the manufacturers test tracks and parking lots what can the do? No one will pay MSRP for a 2008 if the credit doesn't open till 2010. They will not pay MSRP for a 2009. Not when the consumer knows there is a backlog of cars just sitting there getting older by the minute. But there is a double whammy if the dealers and manufacturers blink first.
 
If you start unloading all that excess inventory, and there are plenty of Nissans, Toyotas and Hondas out there as well as domestics, and you price them as Nippon suggests at half price who will be in the market for a new car in the next three years? No one in their right mind will pay 28k for a new 2010 or 2011 Prius if they know there are more then enough 2009s sitting on the dock in LA. (the pictures have been posted.) Same goes with any model of any excess car. none of that will help the dealers however.
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Re: But we are waiting to see who blinks first. [boaz47] by fezo
Mar 11, 2009 (3:21 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Mar 11, 2009 3:18 pm)

81 cars vanish from Neb. dealership "Investigators suspect inside job."
 
Gee, ya think?
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Re: But we are waiting to see who blinks first. [boaz47] by nippononly
Mar 11, 2009 (3:30 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Mar 11, 2009 3:18 pm)

and you price them as Nippon suggests at half price
 
I only suggested that for GM cars, to get our money back from the massive bailout, and it was said in jest!
 
8 years of aggressively pulling forward sales with massive rebates, discounts, and whatnot sure has a profound effect.....I think the forecasts of 2000 dealers going out of business this year will prove low in the end.
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Re: But we are waiting to see who blinks first. [nippononly] by boaz47
Mar 11, 2009 (8:22 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Mar 11, 2009 3:30 pm)

But what are you going to do with the Excess Toyotas, Hondas and Nissans? They are all still making cars and the storage is piling up. How will they price over stock from 2008 and 2009 in 2010?
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Re: But we are waiting to see who blinks first. [boaz47] by nippononly
Mar 11, 2009 (8:31 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Mar 11, 2009 8:22 pm)

Oh there won't be much, boaz. Not from the Japanese 3. They have already cut or entirely halted production in many places overseas (and here as well, the folks at NUMMI are facing big cutbacks on their work schedules for instance). We will see them only produce half as many vehicles as usual for the '09 model year.
 
As for '08s I think Toyota was the only one caught flat-footed there, and they will have to offer $2000+ rebates on leftover '08s, which they are already doing. I think we will see them go well before 1-1-2010.
 
But dealers face a year of cutthroat competition with each other, I would guess. So much for profit margins on new car sales.

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