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Dude, where did all the dealerships go?

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did anyone notice this one? by nippononly
Mar 10, 2009 (9:04 pm)
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It's heartbreaking:
 
US car dealer dies torching own vehicles
 
Following the closure of his dealership a week earlier, Pennsylvania car dealer Gregory Graham died of a heart attack while torching new vehicles that remained on his lot.
 
....It was concluded that Graham, 61, died of a heart attack while he was burning the vehicles at his dealership in Ligonier, about 65km southeast of Pittsburgh.
 
Graham was a third-generation dealer selling Buick, Pontiac and Jeep vehicles. His grandfather, Albert, started Graham Colonial Motors in the 1920s. Graham’s father, Charles, later took over.
 
The dealership owed more than US$420,000 in 2008 federal tax liens and more than Us$11,000 in county property-tax liens, according to court records.

 
http://www.caradvice.com.au/25419/us-car-dealer-dies-torching-own-vehicles/
 
I wonder if he did it out of anger or because they were insured and he owed money on them. It's a VERY bad time to be a new car dealer.
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Re: did anyone notice this one? [nippononly] by carthell
Mar 10, 2009 (9:32 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Mar 10, 2009 9:04 pm)

Ick, ick, ick. There was probably a better way to handle the situation. The IRS and the local gov't. gets every scrap of value left of his estate, and his family (if they're lucky) might have enough savings to bury him because he essentially canceled his life insurance policy upon lighting the first match.
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Re: did anyone notice this one? [nippononly] by lemko
Mar 11, 2009 (6:22 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Mar 10, 2009 9:04 pm)

What the heck was the point of torching the vehicles after his dealership closed? At that point, it really doesn't matter. Was it some futile angry gesture?
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Re: did anyone notice this one? [lemko] by nippononly
Mar 11, 2009 (8:14 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Mar 11, 2009 6:22 am)

That's what I was wondering.
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Re: did anyone notice this one? [lemko] by dtownfb
Mar 11, 2009 (8:24 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Mar 11, 2009 6:22 am)

Wouldn't the vehicle go back to the manufacturer? Maybe he was upset with the manufacturer over floorplanning and wanted to send a message?
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Re: did anyone notice this one? [lemko] by gagrice
Mar 11, 2009 (8:46 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Mar 11, 2009 6:22 am)

He hated Buicks & Pontiacs
 
I think the IRS and government meddling in business was probably his motivation. It is getting so much worse trying to go into any kind of business.
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Re: did anyone notice this one? [gagrice] by lemko
Mar 11, 2009 (8:51 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Mar 11, 2009 8:46 am)

Shoot, I'd have taken those Buicks off his hands for him! As for the Pontiacs...eh...not much I care about except for the G8 GT.
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Not too much of a surprise here by michaell
Mar 11, 2009 (1:32 pm)
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I guess if you're going to steal, this is the way to get the most bang for your buck:
 
LA Times Article
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But we are waiting to see who blinks first. by boaz47
Mar 11, 2009 (3:18 pm)
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With all of these cars piling up on Ships and is storage lots and at the manufacturers test tracks and parking lots what can the do? No one will pay MSRP for a 2008 if the credit doesn't open till 2010. They will not pay MSRP for a 2009. Not when the consumer knows there is a backlog of cars just sitting there getting older by the minute. But there is a double whammy if the dealers and manufacturers blink first.
 
If you start unloading all that excess inventory, and there are plenty of Nissans, Toyotas and Hondas out there as well as domestics, and you price them as Nippon suggests at half price who will be in the market for a new car in the next three years? No one in their right mind will pay 28k for a new 2010 or 2011 Prius if they know there are more then enough 2009s sitting on the dock in LA. (the pictures have been posted.) Same goes with any model of any excess car. none of that will help the dealers however.
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Re: But we are waiting to see who blinks first. [boaz47] by fezo
Mar 11, 2009 (3:21 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Mar 11, 2009 3:18 pm)

81 cars vanish from Neb. dealership "Investigators suspect inside job."
 
Gee, ya think?

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