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Dude, where did all the dealerships go?

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Re: down the tube in a different way [steve_] by nippononly
Jan 01, 2009 (12:40 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 01, 2009 9:53 am)

I wonder if any dealers are terminating new car sales but continuing used sales and/or warranty service. None of the many I have read about have done that - they have all gone entirely out of business.
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Re: down the tube in a different way [nippononly] by fezo
Jan 01, 2009 (12:44 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 01, 2009 12:40 pm)

When GM killed Oldsmobile we had a dealership in county that did that - became a used car dealership. Maybe a year or so later they got a Chevy dealership.
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Re: down the tube in a different way [nippononly] by steve_ HOST
Jan 01, 2009 (1:07 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 01, 2009 12:40 pm)

Sort of makes sense if the dealers can afford to put some inventory on the lot and keep a few mechanics busy. I wonder if they can keep the warranty business if they aren't ordering new cars though?
 
"Used car sales were down only 8 percent compared to 2007, and Certified Pre-Owned (CPO) sales were flat. During the same period, new car sales fell by more than 16 percent.
 
"During the downturn in the economy, many car shoppers hunted for bargains in the used car lot," observed Edmunds.com Analyst Joe Spina." link
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Re: down the tube in a different way [steve_] by boaz47
Jan 01, 2009 (4:22 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 01, 2009 1:07 pm)

The car auctions were the place to go. If you had some cash you could pick up some of the cars the bank was desperate to get rid of.
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Re: down the tube in a different way [boaz47] by gagrice
Jan 01, 2009 (5:10 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Jan 01, 2009 4:22 pm)

Is there a website that gives prices paid at auction? Also how would you find a list of dealers that have gone out of business? I do not know of any here in San Diego. It is probably safe to say most of them are hanging on by a thread. I know my Toyota agency has a new owner.
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Re: down the tube in a different way [gagrice] by boaz47
Jan 01, 2009 (6:28 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 01, 2009 5:10 pm)

I'm not sure where you get the prices paid. My cousin used to work for one of the Auction companies. And I had a good friend that was a used car dealer. They get a list of the auctions and you have to go and bid based on what you are willing to pay. I haven't seen a new car liquidation yet but they have to have them. Much like Big lots gets things.
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Re: down the tube in a different way [boaz47] by steve_ HOST
Jan 01, 2009 (8:19 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Jan 01, 2009 6:28 pm)

About 5 years ago one of the local auction houses posted sales prices on the net that you could access without a password. That was fun while it lasted (about 8 months).
 
They do have other info of interest: Idaho Auto Auction
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ANOTHER DEALER GOES BUST by otto8
Jan 04, 2009 (11:39 am)
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A local mega dealer has had another setback and is about to lose its Chevy/Buick
franchise. Dealmaker auto group aka Seaway Chev./Buick in northern NY is in default with GMAC.
http://www.newzjunky.com/court/1224dealmaker.htm
  
A few months ago they closed their Ford store in suburban Syracuse NY.
Funny that all the used cars are gone but the lot is loaded with new Ford
cars and trucks as well as a KR and Cobra stangs buried in the snow
out front. This is the 6th Ford dealer to either go broke or take a buyout
from Ford in the Syracuse area.
http://www.syracuse.com/business/index.ssf?/base/business-14/122605180193340.xml- - &coll=1
  
A local longtime (1948) single prop. family Linc/Merc. dealer in another upscale
Syr. burb. of Manlius took a FoMoCo buy out and sold their prime location
for a strip mall/drug store instead of building a new building/service dept.
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-187744842.html
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Re: ANOTHER DEALER GOES BUST [otto8] by nippononly
Jan 04, 2009 (8:03 pm)
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Replying to: otto8 (Jan 04, 2009 11:39 am)

A few months ago they closed their Ford store in suburban Syracuse NY.
Funny that all the used cars are gone but the lot is loaded with new Ford
cars and trucks as well as a KR and Cobra stangs buried in the snow
out front
 
Maybe Ford is in no big hurry to take them back. I think they already have too many vehicles on hand!
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gee whiz by nippononly
Jan 06, 2009 (10:01 am)
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Here's one right in my own back yard that I totally missed:
 
San Rafael Ford dealership closes without warning
 
Keli Gaffney pulled into the parking lot at Ford of Marin Friday afternoon and nearly smashed her pickup truck into its metal gates.
"I was supposed to be here at 2:15 to have my windshield repaired," said Gaffney, who had purchased her vehicle from the San Rafael dealership two weeks earlier. "And then today I find out they're out of business."
 
A sign on the doorway of the West Francisco Boulevard dealership declared, "Ford of Marin has temporarily closed. If your vehicle is in our possession, we will complete the work and contact you when it can be picked up." The few employees remaining in the parking lot declined to provide an explanation for the abrupt closure.
 
"Read the sign," one employee growled, closing the dealership's gates.
 
So I guess at least one person had contracted for work on a car she purchased, and they went out of business before completing it. This is a dealership that had been through several hands in the last decade, so I guess it's not that surprising that it finally went under completely in the current business atmosphere. It was no relocation though: today we are down to one Ford dealership in the county, the Novato dealership mentioned in the article. This one recently expanded to include a full remodelling and to add the Mercury and Lincoln brands, so maybe they are on a solid footing.
 
http://www.marinij.com/ci_10691088
 
On a separate note, I heard unconfirmed rumors yesterday that the Toyota dealership in my town may be about to fold. In the worst possible coincidence of timing, they bought up a neighboring Buick dealership early this year that was closing, and expanded into their space. Now sales are dead, and they have laid off half their sales force. It is noticeably quiet when I go over there for service...the service department, however, appears to be thriving just as it always was.

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