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Dude, where did all the dealerships go?

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Re: When things are REALLY DESPERATE!!! [gagrice] by boaz47
Dec 30, 2008 (10:44 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 30, 2008 7:33 am)

I agree with you part of the problem the dealers are having is people trying to trade in a car. It is better to pay the sucker off and keep or sell it outright. In truth you don't make money in a resale and even the best resale would break even. But still you have paid to drive the vehicle $xxx.xx a month. With a paid off vehicle you only pay for repairs and gas. Like my Tahoe I can afford to keep it even if gas were $4.00 because I only drive it to tow or haul or if I want to take someone out to dinner and I want to go in comfort. Little cars aren't much for social engagements when women have to wear a new dress. we don't do that as much with the economy like it is but we used to.
 
Leasing or trading in every three years is like renting an apartment. Sure you have a nice place to live but it is never "yours".
 
What is good about things right now is you can get a very nice used car at a discount that will make many of us drool. People bought over their head with their cars much like some did with their houses and I see almost new cars being sold every day. Things got so inflated that people stopped thinking about ever paying off their house or their car. Now that thinking has come home to roost.
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down the tube in a different way by steve_ HOST
Jan 01, 2009 (9:53 am)
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"there will always be a need for dealerships to service those products. I think that those dealership that remain nimble and flexible will survive, but there will definitely be a 'thinning of the herd,"
 
One Small Town Dealership Feels the Pinch but Sees Hope in the Future
 
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Re: down the tube in a different way [steve_] by nippononly
Jan 01, 2009 (12:40 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 01, 2009 9:53 am)

I wonder if any dealers are terminating new car sales but continuing used sales and/or warranty service. None of the many I have read about have done that - they have all gone entirely out of business.
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Re: down the tube in a different way [nippononly] by fezo
Jan 01, 2009 (12:44 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 01, 2009 12:40 pm)

When GM killed Oldsmobile we had a dealership in county that did that - became a used car dealership. Maybe a year or so later they got a Chevy dealership.
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Re: down the tube in a different way [nippononly] by steve_ HOST
Jan 01, 2009 (1:07 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 01, 2009 12:40 pm)

Sort of makes sense if the dealers can afford to put some inventory on the lot and keep a few mechanics busy. I wonder if they can keep the warranty business if they aren't ordering new cars though?
 
"Used car sales were down only 8 percent compared to 2007, and Certified Pre-Owned (CPO) sales were flat. During the same period, new car sales fell by more than 16 percent.
 
"During the downturn in the economy, many car shoppers hunted for bargains in the used car lot," observed Edmunds.com Analyst Joe Spina." link
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Re: down the tube in a different way [steve_] by boaz47
Jan 01, 2009 (4:22 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 01, 2009 1:07 pm)

The car auctions were the place to go. If you had some cash you could pick up some of the cars the bank was desperate to get rid of.
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Re: down the tube in a different way [boaz47] by gagrice
Jan 01, 2009 (5:10 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Jan 01, 2009 4:22 pm)

Is there a website that gives prices paid at auction? Also how would you find a list of dealers that have gone out of business? I do not know of any here in San Diego. It is probably safe to say most of them are hanging on by a thread. I know my Toyota agency has a new owner.
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Re: down the tube in a different way [gagrice] by boaz47
Jan 01, 2009 (6:28 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 01, 2009 5:10 pm)

I'm not sure where you get the prices paid. My cousin used to work for one of the Auction companies. And I had a good friend that was a used car dealer. They get a list of the auctions and you have to go and bid based on what you are willing to pay. I haven't seen a new car liquidation yet but they have to have them. Much like Big lots gets things.
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Re: down the tube in a different way [boaz47] by steve_ HOST
Jan 01, 2009 (8:19 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Jan 01, 2009 6:28 pm)

About 5 years ago one of the local auction houses posted sales prices on the net that you could access without a password. That was fun while it lasted (about 8 months).
 
They do have other info of interest: Idaho Auto Auction
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ANOTHER DEALER GOES BUST by otto8
Jan 04, 2009 (11:39 am)
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A local mega dealer has had another setback and is about to lose its Chevy/Buick
franchise. Dealmaker auto group aka Seaway Chev./Buick in northern NY is in default with GMAC.
http://www.newzjunky.com/court/1224dealmaker.htm
  
A few months ago they closed their Ford store in suburban Syracuse NY.
Funny that all the used cars are gone but the lot is loaded with new Ford
cars and trucks as well as a KR and Cobra stangs buried in the snow
out front. This is the 6th Ford dealer to either go broke or take a buyout
from Ford in the Syracuse area.
http://www.syracuse.com/business/index.ssf?/base/business-14/122605180193340.xml- - &coll=1
  
A local longtime (1948) single prop. family Linc/Merc. dealer in another upscale
Syr. burb. of Manlius took a FoMoCo buy out and sold their prime location
for a strip mall/drug store instead of building a new building/service dept.
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-187744842.html

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