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Worst Car of 2008 - Your nominees

110 messages,  Last post on Dec 15, 2008 at 12:51 PM

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Re: On the bright side [nippononly] by boaz47
Dec 02, 2008 (10:43 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Dec 01, 2008 6:47 pm)

The Prius is very good for what it was designed for, pulling people out of their 6-cylinder sedans and 8-cylinder trucks and into a 50 mpg vehicle, as well as giving people the opportunity to make a green statement with their car purchase. "
 
It wasn't a fight my friend. It is a point about you defending the underdog. Cute isn't many would call the Smart. Functional maybe but you know simply offering an alternative to a bigger car isn't a qualification for "good" drivers car. In fact you defended the smart in one of the early forums when it was first released when I said something very close to this: It's the worst driver's car ever created, and that is coming from the owner of an ECHO for goodness' sake! I have been in a Smart and it fights you in the freeway rain groves almost like my old motorcycle. I am just pointing out that you will defend cars like the Smart and Prius even if they fall short in fulfilling their intended purpose. If small cars had a patron saint the medal would look a lot like you. Not a bad thing because that is just you.
 
We were nominating a car for worst car based on sales, and product quality, and meeting its promised specifications. You said: “The question is, what's a good city car/commute car that I can park anywhere, which will get superlative fuel economy, yet still have some style and optional features I can't typically find in the usual econoboxes?” The car you are now driving and the one that replaced it have more room and cost close to the same and gets at least if not better fuel mileage. So the Smart didn’t answer the question that anyone asked. No one said give me a micro car that gets the same mileage as a compact and has no room to even bring home the groceries. I simply agree the Smart was a good nomination for worst car of 2008 and knew that even if the Smart had a bit more room without a manual you weren't going to consider it.
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Re: On the bright side [boaz47] by fezo
Dec 02, 2008 (11:04 am)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Dec 02, 2008 10:43 am)

No one said give me a micro car that gets the same mileage as a compact and has no room to even bring home the groceries.
 
And that is why the Smart keeps rearing its ugly head in here. It takes a special vehicle to do nothing well at all.
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Re: On the bright side [fezo] by pf_flyer HOST
Dec 04, 2008 (6:28 am)
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Replying to: fezo (Dec 02, 2008 11:04 am)

It takes a special vehicle to do nothing well at all.
 
Well it does small VERY well
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Re: I'm disappointed [boaz47] by jchan2
Dec 10, 2008 (7:44 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Dec 01, 2008 5:46 pm)

Quite honestly, I didn't know the Reno was still on the market as a 2008/2009 model...
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Re: I'm disappointed [jchan2] by boaz47
Dec 10, 2008 (10:48 pm)
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Replying to: jchan2 (Dec 10, 2008 7:44 pm)

"Quite honestly, I didn't know the Reno was still on the market as a 2008/2009 model"
 
Edmunds still lists it but I don't know why either. It should have gone the way of the Baja.
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Perhaps... by jchan2
Dec 11, 2008 (7:00 pm)
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Rental fleets have requested that the car stay on?
I do see quite a few Forenzas sitting in the airport rental lots...
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Re: Perhaps... [jchan2] by fezo
Dec 11, 2008 (7:04 pm)
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Replying to: jchan2 (Dec 11, 2008 7:00 pm)

I actually see Forenzas driving around here. The big "family of dealerships" in town sells Suzuki in addition to some decent brands.
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Re: Perhaps... [fezo] by 210delray
Dec 11, 2008 (8:26 pm)
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Replying to: fezo (Dec 11, 2008 7:04 pm)

The Forenza and Reno are dead as of the 2009 model year, but there are probably still a lot of new 2008s left. Get yours before it's too late!
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Re: Perhaps... [210delray] by guss
Dec 12, 2008 (5:55 am)
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Replying to: 210delray (Dec 11, 2008 8:26 pm)

I had a Suzuki salesman tell me the reason the Forenza got such bad EPA numbers was because Suzuki told them to under report it so buyers would not be dissapointed if it did not get their figures.
 
After driving on , the mileage is not the first thing I would be dissapointed in.
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Re: Perhaps... [guss] by fintail
Dec 12, 2008 (7:44 am)
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Replying to: guss (Dec 12, 2008 5:55 am)

A friend of mine had a Forenza rental not long ago when his 120K mile 03 Accord was in the shop to have a key scratch fixed. He said the Honda, even at that mileage, feels like a Bentley compared to the Forenza.

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