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Worst Car of 2008 - Your nominees

110 messages,  Last post on Dec 15, 2008 at 12:51 PM

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#94 of 110
Re: On the bright side [pf_flyer] by boaz47
Dec 01, 2008 (6:36 pm)
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Dec 01, 2008 6:07 pm)

So the Smart gets it by consensus? Even my wife thought it was a silly concept. I believe I can carry more groceries in my bike trailer than you can with a smart. And despite what Nippon says, it would take more than shoulder room to get him to buy one. He will however defend the small underdog to the end. He defended the Prius with full enthusiasm and ended up buying three new cars after the Prius came out, not one was a Prius.
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Re: On the bright side [boaz47] by fezo
Dec 01, 2008 (6:42 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Dec 01, 2008 6:36 pm)

I don't know if the Smart is the consensus. It should get bonus points for the fact that it's no great shakes on mileage given its microscopic size. The European and and Canadian models are different. To Americanize it you had to beat out all the desirable traits.
 
I have to admit you have a really good (?) candidate with that Reno. Maybe Suzuki should be named Worst Automaker of the Year.
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Re: On the bright side [fezo] by pf_flyer HOST
Dec 01, 2008 (6:46 pm)
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Replying to: fezo (Dec 01, 2008 6:42 pm)

That's the beauty of your CarSpace blog... you could dedicate your blog to homing in on the worst automaker if it tickled your fancy
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Re: On the bright side [boaz47] by nippononly
Dec 01, 2008 (6:47 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Dec 01, 2008 6:36 pm)

Now now boaz, don't pick a fight with me!
 
The Prius is very good for what it was designed for, pulling people out of their 6-cylinder sedans and 8-cylinder trucks and into a 50 mpg vehicle, as well as giving people the opportunity to make a green statement with their car purchase.
 
It's the worst driver's car ever created, and that is coming from the owner of an ECHO for goodness' sake!
 
But then, you and I both know that 98% of the car owners in America aren't car DRIVERS, they are car OPERATORS, and they wouldn't know or care about the difference between a good drive and a bad one. They are A to B, strictly A to B.
 
And you also know me, the bottom line is no stick, no sale, and that's the only real problem with the Smart car. Of course, I haven't actually driven one you understand, just sat in it at the auto show. It sure is cute though.
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Re: On the bright side [nippononly] by boaz47
Dec 02, 2008 (10:43 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Dec 01, 2008 6:47 pm)

The Prius is very good for what it was designed for, pulling people out of their 6-cylinder sedans and 8-cylinder trucks and into a 50 mpg vehicle, as well as giving people the opportunity to make a green statement with their car purchase. "
 
It wasn't a fight my friend. It is a point about you defending the underdog. Cute isn't many would call the Smart. Functional maybe but you know simply offering an alternative to a bigger car isn't a qualification for "good" drivers car. In fact you defended the smart in one of the early forums when it was first released when I said something very close to this: It's the worst driver's car ever created, and that is coming from the owner of an ECHO for goodness' sake! I have been in a Smart and it fights you in the freeway rain groves almost like my old motorcycle. I am just pointing out that you will defend cars like the Smart and Prius even if they fall short in fulfilling their intended purpose. If small cars had a patron saint the medal would look a lot like you. Not a bad thing because that is just you.
 
We were nominating a car for worst car based on sales, and product quality, and meeting its promised specifications. You said: “The question is, what's a good city car/commute car that I can park anywhere, which will get superlative fuel economy, yet still have some style and optional features I can't typically find in the usual econoboxes?” The car you are now driving and the one that replaced it have more room and cost close to the same and gets at least if not better fuel mileage. So the Smart didn’t answer the question that anyone asked. No one said give me a micro car that gets the same mileage as a compact and has no room to even bring home the groceries. I simply agree the Smart was a good nomination for worst car of 2008 and knew that even if the Smart had a bit more room without a manual you weren't going to consider it.
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Re: On the bright side [boaz47] by fezo
Dec 02, 2008 (11:04 am)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Dec 02, 2008 10:43 am)

No one said give me a micro car that gets the same mileage as a compact and has no room to even bring home the groceries.
 
And that is why the Smart keeps rearing its ugly head in here. It takes a special vehicle to do nothing well at all.
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Re: On the bright side [fezo] by pf_flyer HOST
Dec 04, 2008 (6:28 am)
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Replying to: fezo (Dec 02, 2008 11:04 am)

It takes a special vehicle to do nothing well at all.
 
Well it does small VERY well
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Re: I'm disappointed [boaz47] by jchan2
Dec 10, 2008 (7:44 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Dec 01, 2008 5:46 pm)

Quite honestly, I didn't know the Reno was still on the market as a 2008/2009 model...
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Re: I'm disappointed [jchan2] by boaz47
Dec 10, 2008 (10:48 pm)
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Replying to: jchan2 (Dec 10, 2008 7:44 pm)

"Quite honestly, I didn't know the Reno was still on the market as a 2008/2009 model"
 
Edmunds still lists it but I don't know why either. It should have gone the way of the Baja.
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Perhaps... by jchan2
Dec 11, 2008 (7:00 pm)
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Rental fleets have requested that the car stay on?
I do see quite a few Forenzas sitting in the airport rental lots...

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