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Worst Car of 2008 - Your nominees

110 messages,  Last post on Dec 15, 2008 at 1:51 PM

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#88 of 110
Re: I'm disappointed [nippononly] by fezo
Dec 01, 2008 (2:09 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Dec 01, 2008 9:43 am)

If the Smart is a perfect answer I don't want to know the question.
 
However, your point of a minimum sales volume might make for an interesting choice.
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Re: I'm disappointed [fezo] by nippononly
Dec 01, 2008 (5:10 pm)
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Replying to: fezo (Dec 01, 2008 2:09 pm)

Tthe question is, what's a good city car/commute car that I can park anywhere, which will get superlative fuel economy, yet still have some style and optional features I can't typically find in the usual econoboxes?
 
I sat in one at the auto show, and I tell if you if this thing were a smidge wider and came with a manual transmission, I would be VERY interested.
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Re: Well... [fezo] by karsick
Dec 01, 2008 (6:24 pm)
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Replying to: fezo (Nov 14, 2008 2:29 pm)

If one can excuse the Crown Vic & Grand Marquis, then I'd also excuse the Ranger.
 
These may be waaaaaaay long in the tooth, with monstrous panel gaps and cheap vinyl interior, but in basic 4cyl, RWD, stickshift form, they are one of "The Last Honest Vehicles": easy to work on, cheap to fix, debugged of glaring faults, 25mpg efficient & cheap to insure, and most like the venerable Model T than anything else on the market.
 
I adore the modern technology of direct injected turbos, AWD, 4WS, ESC, ABS, IRS, TCS, active steering, DSG, automatic sun visors, etc, etc, but want at least ONE vehicle I can fix with a crescent wrench and a jackknife
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Re: I'm disappointed [fezo] by karsick
Dec 01, 2008 (6:37 pm)
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Replying to: fezo (Dec 01, 2008 2:09 pm)

I hereby throw my vote for WORST car to the Smart, a car whose only real attribute is parkability, even though the clueless target market is people who think they're buying a high-MPG Polar Bear saver that they can self-righteously flaunt at the local food co-op.
 
The Smart may have a "safety cell", but without a crumple zone, passengers may face the same fate as Dale Earnhardt Sr in a big crash.
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Re: I'm disappointed [karsick] by boaz47
Dec 01, 2008 (6:46 pm)
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Replying to: karsick (Dec 01, 2008 6:37 pm)

Well I can agree on the smart for not delivering on the promise. But it is hard to get away from the Suzuki Reno for poor sales, and poor dependability and poor looks.
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On the bright side by pf_flyer HOST
Dec 01, 2008 (7:07 pm)
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Dub has a whole year to think about next Thanksgiving's turkey
 
I'm sure plenty of candidates will surface in 2009
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Re: On the bright side [pf_flyer] by boaz47
Dec 01, 2008 (7:36 pm)
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Dec 01, 2008 7:07 pm)

So the Smart gets it by consensus? Even my wife thought it was a silly concept. I believe I can carry more groceries in my bike trailer than you can with a smart. And despite what Nippon says, it would take more than shoulder room to get him to buy one. He will however defend the small underdog to the end. He defended the Prius with full enthusiasm and ended up buying three new cars after the Prius came out, not one was a Prius.
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Re: On the bright side [boaz47] by fezo
Dec 01, 2008 (7:42 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Dec 01, 2008 7:36 pm)

I don't know if the Smart is the consensus. It should get bonus points for the fact that it's no great shakes on mileage given its microscopic size. The European and and Canadian models are different. To Americanize it you had to beat out all the desirable traits.
 
I have to admit you have a really good (?) candidate with that Reno. Maybe Suzuki should be named Worst Automaker of the Year.
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Re: On the bright side [fezo] by pf_flyer HOST
Dec 01, 2008 (7:46 pm)
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Replying to: fezo (Dec 01, 2008 7:42 pm)

That's the beauty of your CarSpace blog... you could dedicate your blog to homing in on the worst automaker if it tickled your fancy
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Re: On the bright side [boaz47] by nippononly
Dec 01, 2008 (7:47 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Dec 01, 2008 7:36 pm)

Now now boaz, don't pick a fight with me!
 
The Prius is very good for what it was designed for, pulling people out of their 6-cylinder sedans and 8-cylinder trucks and into a 50 mpg vehicle, as well as giving people the opportunity to make a green statement with their car purchase.
 
It's the worst driver's car ever created, and that is coming from the owner of an ECHO for goodness' sake!
 
But then, you and I both know that 98% of the car owners in America aren't car DRIVERS, they are car OPERATORS, and they wouldn't know or care about the difference between a good drive and a bad one. They are A to B, strictly A to B.
 
And you also know me, the bottom line is no stick, no sale, and that's the only real problem with the Smart car. Of course, I haven't actually driven one you understand, just sat in it at the auto show. It sure is cute though.

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