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Worst Car of 2008 - Your nominees

110 messages,  Last post on Dec 15, 2008 at 12:51 PM

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#86 of 110
Re: Counting down to Christmas! [fezo] by fezo
Nov 30, 2008 (1:49 pm)
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Replying to: fezo (Nov 30, 2008 1:47 pm)

Should have mentioned - none of those cars belong in this topic - they were all fine.
 
Now ask me about my Windstall.....
 
BTW - loved the baseball cards option on the Smart....
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I'm disappointed by nippononly
Dec 01, 2008 (8:43 am)
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the Smart is too easy to pick on for something like this. For some people the Smart is the perfect answer to their question of automotive needs. The proof is that they are selling all they expected to and more.
 
Which brings me to my point: couldn't the worst car of the year have been something with annual projected sales volumes higher than 20K? It kind of makes it meaningless to give the "award" to a niche car like this.
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Re: I'm disappointed [nippononly] by fezo
Dec 01, 2008 (1:09 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Dec 01, 2008 8:43 am)

If the Smart is a perfect answer I don't want to know the question.
 
However, your point of a minimum sales volume might make for an interesting choice.
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Re: I'm disappointed [fezo] by nippononly
Dec 01, 2008 (4:10 pm)
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Replying to: fezo (Dec 01, 2008 1:09 pm)

Tthe question is, what's a good city car/commute car that I can park anywhere, which will get superlative fuel economy, yet still have some style and optional features I can't typically find in the usual econoboxes?
 
I sat in one at the auto show, and I tell if you if this thing were a smidge wider and came with a manual transmission, I would be VERY interested.
#90 of 110
Re: Well... [fezo] by karsick
Dec 01, 2008 (5:24 pm)
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Replying to: fezo (Nov 14, 2008 1:29 pm)

If one can excuse the Crown Vic & Grand Marquis, then I'd also excuse the Ranger.
 
These may be waaaaaaay long in the tooth, with monstrous panel gaps and cheap vinyl interior, but in basic 4cyl, RWD, stickshift form, they are one of "The Last Honest Vehicles": easy to work on, cheap to fix, debugged of glaring faults, 25mpg efficient & cheap to insure, and most like the venerable Model T than anything else on the market.
 
I adore the modern technology of direct injected turbos, AWD, 4WS, ESC, ABS, IRS, TCS, active steering, DSG, automatic sun visors, etc, etc, but want at least ONE vehicle I can fix with a crescent wrench and a jackknife
#91 of 110
Re: I'm disappointed [fezo] by karsick
Dec 01, 2008 (5:37 pm)
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Replying to: fezo (Dec 01, 2008 1:09 pm)

I hereby throw my vote for WORST car to the Smart, a car whose only real attribute is parkability, even though the clueless target market is people who think they're buying a high-MPG Polar Bear saver that they can self-righteously flaunt at the local food co-op.
 
The Smart may have a "safety cell", but without a crumple zone, passengers may face the same fate as Dale Earnhardt Sr in a big crash.
#92 of 110
Re: I'm disappointed [karsick] by boaz47
Dec 01, 2008 (5:46 pm)
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Replying to: karsick (Dec 01, 2008 5:37 pm)

Well I can agree on the smart for not delivering on the promise. But it is hard to get away from the Suzuki Reno for poor sales, and poor dependability and poor looks.
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On the bright side by pf_flyer HOST
Dec 01, 2008 (6:07 pm)
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Dub has a whole year to think about next Thanksgiving's turkey
 
I'm sure plenty of candidates will surface in 2009
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Re: On the bright side [pf_flyer] by boaz47
Dec 01, 2008 (6:36 pm)
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Dec 01, 2008 6:07 pm)

So the Smart gets it by consensus? Even my wife thought it was a silly concept. I believe I can carry more groceries in my bike trailer than you can with a smart. And despite what Nippon says, it would take more than shoulder room to get him to buy one. He will however defend the small underdog to the end. He defended the Prius with full enthusiasm and ended up buying three new cars after the Prius came out, not one was a Prius.
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Re: On the bright side [boaz47] by fezo
Dec 01, 2008 (6:42 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Dec 01, 2008 6:36 pm)

I don't know if the Smart is the consensus. It should get bonus points for the fact that it's no great shakes on mileage given its microscopic size. The European and and Canadian models are different. To Americanize it you had to beat out all the desirable traits.
 
I have to admit you have a really good (?) candidate with that Reno. Maybe Suzuki should be named Worst Automaker of the Year.

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