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#59 of 110 Re: but [gmctruck] by boaz47 Nov 17, 2008 (9:21 pm)
Replying to: gmctruck (Nov 17, 2008 8:36 pm) "Well you can bet that anything built by GM will be falling apart shortly after the warranty expires if not before."   And there is the beauty of nominating the Reno. You don't have to wait till the warrentee for it to fall apart. From the dependability studies you can watch it fall apart right before your eyes. Maybe even faster than a VW? Well maybe not that fast but pretty quick. Faster than a Kia Reo? Well even they are rated better than a Reno.   But I still say darn the luck the Subaru Baja is gone. It was an easy pick. But then the Scions aren't pretty and they aren't Toyota dependable so there is still hope. Replies to this message: steve_ (Nov 17, 2008 9:29 pm) boaz47 (Nov 17, 2008 9:45 pm) steve_ (Nov 17, 2008 10:08 pm)
#60 of 110 Re: but [boaz47] by steve_ HOST Nov 17, 2008 (9:29 pm)
Replying to: boaz47 (Nov 17, 2008 9:21 pm) But then the Scions aren't pretty and they aren't Toyota dependable so there is still hope.   I think I already mentioned that I like Scions and my wife would buy an xD tomorrow.   I haven't looked at JD Power but guess who tops the chart of the CR Predicted Reliability Rankings for '09 models? Replies to this message: boaz47 (Nov 17, 2008 9:45 pm) steve_ (Nov 17, 2008 10:08 pm)
#61 of 110 Re: but [steve_] by boaz47 Nov 17, 2008 (9:45 pm)
Replying to: steve_ (Nov 17, 2008 9:29 pm) JD powers has Scions below average. But CR has rated 2009 cars before 2009? I am sure they don't rate the Reno at the top of their list. Sounds like them rate the car first and then see how they hold up. But I have never hid my dislike of the xB. I wouldn't ride in one to a dog fight let alone drive one to a dog fight. Any car designed by etch a sketch just goes against the grain. They even managed to make it less desirable to the target demographic with the redesign. But I know people who like them, they were the same ones that bought a Aztec when they first came out I am sure. The xD neither offends me nor excites me. Lots of other cars in their class that do what they are supposed to do with better fuel economy. Still a 16 month sales slump for Scion has to indicate something no matter what CR thinks. And the person doing the article was interesting saying that dependability doesn't stop him or her from buying a car they like. I had to smirk. I can be the same way if I like a car but I just can't get passed dependability and ugly. But the question was worst car of 2008. Scion has plenty of time to drop in a year. Replies to this message: steve_ (Nov 17, 2008 10:08 pm)
#62 of 110 Re: but [boaz47] by steve_ HOST Nov 17, 2008 (10:08 pm)
Replying to: boaz47 (Nov 17, 2008 9:45 pm) What can I say? I like boxes and minivans. The only thing the xB (and the Flex) needs are sliding doors.
#63 of 110 My Top (Bottom?) 5 by uofmg35 Nov 18, 2008 (6:04 am)
I can't pick one, so I'll try 5:   - Dodge Nitro - Mini Clubman (aren't Mini's supposed to be... mini?) - Hummer anything (like John Madden, this brand justs need to retire) - Chrysler Aspen - Acura TL   Not sure if this was limited to only all new 2009 models. If so, my vote is for the TL. Besides the horrible styling, it's now also overweight and overpriced. Nice job Acura. Maybe if you add more buttons to the dash your problems will be solved... Replies to this message: graphicguy (Nov 18, 2008 10:08 am)
#64 of 110 Re: My Top (Bottom?) 5 [uofmg35] by graphicguy Nov 18, 2008 (10:08 am)
Replying to: uofmg35 (Nov 18, 2008 6:04 am) OK....I'll jump in....top 5 (bad) vehicles   -Hummer.....anything. Looked ridiculous when they came out. Look even more ridiculous now. Go so far to say that when people put custom "wheels" on them, the even look hideous.   -Scion XB....for the same price as a well equipped corolla, you get s silly looking "wagon" that sounds course and looks even worse than a vanilla Corolla. The original was "unique". This one looks like the designers dropped an ink blot on the floor and decided to put it into their CAD system as a design.   -Smart Car....looks foolish, drives terrible, takes premium fuel, and my lawnmower has less noise, vibration and harshness than the Smart. Every time I see one, I keep expecting a Shriner to exit from it.   -Escalade ESV pickup. If you're going to go over the top with a design, go all the way. This one looks like the crusher missed the entire front end, and only chopped off the back end....then put an MSRP sticker on it and shipped it to the dealership.   -Mitsubish EVO. I know that this car has a lot of dynamic "goodness". But, how much "boy racer" can you possibly put into a car before it becomes as esthetic joke? The answer....EVO.   Just a quick note about the '09 TL. I know I'm in the minority, but I like the redesign. You put the new one, side-by-side to the previous gen, and the old one looks ancient, by comparison. Any car that pulls .83g on the skid pad. And, goes 0-60 in under 7 secs, is hardly overweight, at least not for the amount of power it has. Got to drive one at the formal "unveiling" at my local dealership. Being the former owner of an '04 TL, everything about the new one is better, across the board.   Now, I understand that the leftover '08s are being steeply discounted. And, for the money they're currently selling at, they are a bargain. That makes the difference in real world price fairly significant between the old and the new. But, the '09s are starting to be discounted, too. This time next year, the price between the new gen and previous gen will shrink as the discounting should become more aggressive. It would be hard not to seriously consider an '09 if those discounts get generous.
#65 of 110 I wouldn't put by nippononly Nov 18, 2008 (1:32 pm)
the TL in the list of worst vehicles for '09, but the list of worst STYLING for '09? Oh yes, absolutely. And I am with uofmg up there - it's too heavy and has too little driver involvement. Not the worst overall, no, but a definite contender in a few categories.
#66 of 110 by tommister2 Nov 19, 2008 (7:07 am)
Smart ForTwo - I have not driven one, but I also have not read anything good about them. Why would such a small car get such poor gas mileage? Why premium fuel? Also, nobody like the transmission.
#67 of 110 On the short list for sure by pf_flyer HOST Nov 19, 2008 (7:09 am)
The smart is definitely a contender
#68 of 110 Well by mattandi Nov 19, 2008 (1:24 pm)
it appears that if this were choosing the worst car company there would be a winner by landslide of epic proportions.   So, let me throw this into the mix.   Town & Country/Grand Caravan   The company that gave us the minivan has sunk to unseen before lows. These buggies are supposed to be workhorses that can take endless abuse. The new T&C/GC is a prime example of unfulfilled hope. It is the latest example of cheap, just when you begin to think they can't go any cheaper. Look at parts of it wrong and it breaks. The long term test GC is just about the most reviled and ridiculed amongst the entire fleet. I almost cringe with every new entry wondering what has broken now. Replies to this message: steve_ (Nov 19, 2008 1:46 pm) fezo (Nov 19, 2008 3:00 pm) mattandi (Nov 19, 2008 3:06 pm)

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