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50 Worst Cars of All Time

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Re: '90-'93 Pontiac LeMans [lokki] by texases
Nov 20, 2008 (8:16 am)
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Replying to: lokki (Nov 20, 2008 7:51 am)

"When I get to Hell, I'm going to ask to vist the circle where they keep the guy who OK'd the "Mustang (sic) II."
 
I was at a car show in Cincinnati when they first displayed that thing. Get this - they had a whole display bragging about how it was close to the size of the original T-Bird! What a bunch of IDIOTS.
 
Nobody's mentioned the Ford EXP - at least they didn't ruin another great old name with that rolling disaster, a car about which Iacocca said "the young folks will just eat this up." Oops!
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Re: '90-'93 Pontiac LeMans [texases] by boomchek
Nov 20, 2008 (10:28 am)
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Replying to: texases (Nov 20, 2008 8:16 am)

Ford EXP is one of the ugliest cars ever in my opinion. Especially the bugeyed example shown above. Looks like a cross between a Dodge Charger from the 80s (front end), and Escort (cabin), and a Mustang (rear).
 
I think the wheels were off a Mercury Linx or a Topaz too.
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Re: '90-'93 Pontiac LeMans [hpmctorque] by andys120
Nov 20, 2008 (11:56 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Nov 19, 2008 8:03 pm)


Come to think of it, I think the Chevette and T-1000 were based on the Opel Kadette too.

 
You have it backwards, there were Opel Kadetts long before there was a Daewoo Industries but the T-Cars were descended from a Brazilian-built Chevy Chevette which eventually spawned the Opel Kadett C (1973-79). Daewoo's version was the comically named Daewoo Maepsy (a clone of the Isuzu Gemini).
 
I don't think the Daewoo/Pontiac LeMans (Asuna GT/SE in Canada) ever had an Opel variant.
 
Wikipedia-Daewoo LeMans.
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Speaking of luxury Chevettes... by andre1969
Nov 20, 2008 (12:11 pm)
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while Cadillac never offered one, thankfully, there was some aftermarket company back in the 70's that would take a Chevette and outfit it with a pretentious little grille, nip and tuck the rest of the sheetmetal here and there, and try to stuff in a leather interior and some other appointments that were supposed to give the illusion of a luxury car.
 
I forget the name of the company or what they called the car, but I do remember seeing one on eBay once. Horrid little thing.
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Re: The dreaded Excel [fintail] by joshuag
Nov 20, 2008 (12:18 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Nov 19, 2008 12:58 pm)

I believe you on that. Around 1990 when the Sonata first came out, me and my sister went to a Hyundai dealer so she could look at a cheap excel to get her through school. It was the middle of winter, although we do live in Southern Ca., so it doesn't get that cold. A guy came in to test drive a new Sonata and the car would barely start. Then when he finally got it started it died like three times. But, I guess they have come a long way. My cousin has a 2004 Sonata and it has been bulletproof.
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Re: Speaking of luxury Chevettes... [andre1969] by boomchek
Nov 20, 2008 (12:43 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 20, 2008 12:11 pm)

some aftermarket company back in the 70's that would take a Chevette and outfit it with a pretentious little grille, nip and tuck the rest of the sheetmetal here and there, and try to stuff in a leather interior and some other appointments that were supposed to give the illusion of a luxury car.
 
I remember that one. I think it wa sposted in one of Fintail's eBay time posts on the Classic Cars forum. It was indeed ugly.
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Re: '90-'93 Pontiac LeMans [andys120] by fintail
Nov 20, 2008 (12:47 pm)
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Replying to: andys120 (Nov 20, 2008 11:56 am)

The Opel Kadett E was the basis for those hoary Daewoo/Pontiac LeMans insults we had on these shores...but I have to believe they didn't share much other than body shape.
 
Wikipedia claims 1973 for the Kadett C, 1974 for the Brazilian Chevette.
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Re: The dreaded Excel [joshuag] by fintail
Nov 20, 2008 (12:48 pm)
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Replying to: joshuag (Nov 20, 2008 12:18 pm)

Hyundai has certainly seen more progress than any other carmaker in the past 20 years - and somehow I trust them more than Kia, too.
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Can't talk about "worst cars".... by andys120
Nov 20, 2008 (1:27 pm)
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without mentioning these>
 

 
I had one buddy who traded in his crappy Chevy Vega Wagon for...would you believe..a Dodge Aspen, both were stick-shift wagons.
 
Did I mention he was very cheap.
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Re: '90-'93 Pontiac LeMans [fintail] by andys120
Nov 20, 2008 (1:32 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Nov 20, 2008 12:47 pm)

As often happens, Wikipedia contradicts itself, the article on the "Chevy Chevette" contains this line: The T-car was actually first launched in Brazil under the Chevette name in 1974, as a two-door sedan.

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