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50 Worst Cars of All Time

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Re: The dreaded Excel [boomchek] by fintail
Nov 19, 2008 (10:46 am)
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Replying to: boomchek (Nov 19, 2008 10:23 am)

They are both Giugiaro designs, I think.
 
Up until a few years ago I would still see a Pony on the roads (or parked) now and then in the lower mainland...they could be all gone now. Same for the Stellar.
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I was almost tempted... by andre1969
Nov 19, 2008 (11:08 am)
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to nominate the 1979 New Yorker to the 50 worst cars list, because my blue one died on me Monday night. It would turn over but wouldn't fire up, which is a stunt it's done in the past. Did the same thing yesterday. And today. Until I threw another battery in it and it fired right up. I guess the battery was getting to the point that it had just enough juice to turn the engine over, but not enough to fire it up...does that make sense? And annoyingly, it wouldn't take to jump starting, either.
 
But, I guess I can't throw a car on this list just because of a battery that (I think) dates back to the Clinton administration!
 
I did read somewhere though, that when these cars were new, the line workers joked about taking the next-to-the-last R-body off the assembly line, and taking sledge hammers to it as a celebration. Dunno if they ever did that though, or what fate, if anything special, awaited the last one off the line? It was sort of an end of an era...the last full-sized car Chrysler would ever build. But at the time, I don't think anybody cared.
 
I was a little extra-irritated on Monday night too because I had to work late, so the parking lot was almost deserted when I walked out into the cold, almost-freezing rain. To make matters worse, I couldn't get cell phone reception in that particular part of the parking lot. And just to make a trifecta out of it, my keycard wouldn't let me back into the building to use my office phone! How could something so pretty be so evil? My creme NYer would never do this to me. In fact, the creme NYer gave up its battery to start the blue one.
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Re: The dreaded Excel [fintail] by boomchek
Nov 19, 2008 (11:08 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Nov 19, 2008 10:46 am)

I rarely see a Pony, Stellar, or even the original Excels. Even the first gen Elantras are not a common sight.
 
I figure most entry level Hyundais were throwaway cars. Once they broke nobody bothered to fix them, it wasn't worth it.
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Re: The Excel is surely a nominee [lokki] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 19, 2008 (11:15 am)
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Replying to: lokki (Nov 19, 2008 9:43 am)

The most fascinating thing to me about the Fiero is how GM managed to make a two seat sports car feel *exactly* like you were driving an F350 pickup. How DID they do that?
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Re: I was almost tempted... [andre1969] by joshuag
Nov 19, 2008 (11:34 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 19, 2008 11:08 am)

If you have a car that is still running that is almost 30 years old, I don't think it is the worst car. A friend of mine has a 1992 Chrysler New Yorker with around 250k and it still runs great. They aren't the throw away car like the Excel.
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Re: I was almost tempted... [joshuag] by andre1969
Nov 19, 2008 (11:40 am)
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Replying to: joshuag (Nov 19, 2008 11:34 am)

A friend of mine has a 1992 Chrysler New Yorker with around 250k and it still runs great. They aren't the throw away car like the Excel.
 
Wow, that's actually inspirational! Which engine does it have? The 3.3 V-6? That was supposed to be an excellent, sturdy engine, and they still use them in minivans. It's low-tech by today's standards, but has stood the test of time. Has your friend ever needed to rebuild the transmission?
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Re: The Excel is surely a nominee [Mr_Shiftright] by bumpy
Nov 19, 2008 (11:53 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 19, 2008 11:15 am)

How DID they do that?
 
Front suspension came off the Chevette, and the rear suspension was from the Citation, turned backwards.
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Re: The dreaded Excel [joshuag] by cwalti
Nov 19, 2008 (12:02 pm)
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Replying to: joshuag (Nov 19, 2008 1:56 am)

....you had to ask!!!!!
 
After building / selling ONE marginal model Hyundai is now peddling reasonably decent rides.
The 'Big 3' have built crap for thirty years over and over and over again, -- THAT'S WHY!!!
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Re: The dreaded Excel [boomchek] by fintail
Nov 19, 2008 (12:58 pm)
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Replying to: boomchek (Nov 19, 2008 11:08 am)

I remember the first Sonata (what the Stellar grew into, but the US didn't get it until 1989) as being a real lemon too. I know someone who had one in the mid 90s - it was only maybe 5-6 years old, and it was very unreliable and falling apart.
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Re: The dreaded Excel [fintail] by andre1969
Nov 19, 2008 (1:01 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Nov 19, 2008 12:58 pm)

I remember back in college, one of my friends took a new Elantra out for a test drive, and I went with him. I think this was around 1991. Even on the test drive, that thing felt like a piece of junk. Noisy, cheap, tinny. And I swear I even smelled something burning!
 
My friend ultimately settled for a '91 or '92 Corolla.
 
Hyundai really has come a long way.

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