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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 18, 2008 7:34 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 18, 2008 7:45 am) However, by the time I added in all the power stuff, cruise control, an automatic transmission, tape player, tilt wheel, and a sunroof, I come out with $14,103! I wonder what a comparable BMW 3-series would have cost back in 1982? Now, no self-respecting 3-series should have an automatic, so to take the automatic out of the Cimarron and make it comparable, it's at $13,733. I doubt if a 3-series was much more expensive. I guess a Benz C-class would've been up in the stratosphere, though. Cadillac did a much better job of turning a sow's ear into a silk purse, IMO, with the 1975 Cadillac Seville. While it was based on the Chevy Nova, they did a good job at hiding that fact. Plus, at least it had a bit of exclusivity with the standard fuel-injected Olds 350 V-8, something you couldn't get in any other X-car. It was also longer, had a roomier back seat, and was about 700-800 lb heavier than a Nova, so it was much more substantial. I'll have to admit though, that when I've sat in these first-gen Sevilles, I was a bit disappointed. I thought they'd be roomier and more comfy, but I guess being based on the Nova, they could only do so much with the seating position. I think all the extra room actually went into the back seat. I'd probably be happier with a '75 Dodge Dart Special Edition, although looks-wise, they're kinda dumpy compared to a Seville.
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 18, 2008 7:59 am) I agree the 75 Seville was a good job of repackaging, I suspect few realize its roots. It's the most elegant domestic of that era, for sure. |
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Replying to: andys120 (Nov 13, 2008 5:37 pm) Worst 50? - my vote goes to that fish bowl on wheels - the Pacer.
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The Subaru 360 - Brought here by Malcom, and sold (at least in my home town) at Department Stores. Cheap? You betcha! Deathtrap? You betcha! Right after I'd gawked at one at the Millers Department Store, I saw one on the local news that evening! It was underneath a Chevy Caprice. http://www.microcarmuseum.com/tour/subaru360.html
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 13, 2008 1:03 pm) I would disagree with that assessment. The Vega was a MAJOR flop and a big black eye not just for GM, but the entire American automobile industry. It probably did as much to help Toyota gain a foothold in the American market as Toyota ever did for itself. The Vega was initially announced with a gread deal of fanfare in 1968 by GM's top management as the American car that would beat the foreigners. Unfortunately, the car's design, execution and production were one disaster after another. The car was a huge disappointment at the time, and revealed that all was not well within GM. The scary part is that when I hear the ballyhoo surrounding the Volt, and read the chapter in John DeLorean's book On a Clear Day You Can See General Motors devoted to the Vega, I get this nagging sense of deja vu... I don't think that the General has yet learned its lesson...
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Replying to: lokki (Nov 18, 2008 10:53 am) The Yugo - a Fiat without he legendary Italian reliability. 
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Replying to: captain2 (Nov 18, 2008 10:06 am) Opel today has a lot more reputation for respectable products than what GM has made on this continent for the past 30 years or so.
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Replying to: grbeck (Nov 18, 2008 11:52 am) What I remember most about the Vega was the ugly labor/union/plant problems they had around the car. |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 18, 2008 1:08 pm)
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