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#366 of 405 Re: not bad at all.... [Mr_Shiftright] The worst... [euphonium] [fintail] [lemko] [fintail] [au1994] [fintail] [Mr_Shiftright] [lemko] [uplanderguy] [andre1969] by fezo

Apr 01, 2010 (5:07 pm)

Replying to: andre1969 (Apr 01, 2010 4:52 pm)
The guy next door where I was growing up had a 59 Lark. I liked those things and, as noted, Wilbur Post drove one!
 
They were sturdy enough beasts but rust buckets. I don't think I ever saw one other than a restoration that wasn't pretty rusted up. Even when I was looking in the 70s. By comparison I looked at a 59 Edsel back then with no rust at all in 1977.

#367 of 405 Re: not bad at all.... [Mr_Shiftright] The worst... [euphonium] [fintail] [lemko] [fintail] [au1994] [fintail] [Mr_Shiftright] [lemko] [uplanderguy] [andre1969] [fezo] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Apr 01, 2010 (5:13 pm)

Replying to: fezo (Apr 01, 2010 5:07 pm)
You know, let's just SAY IT---nothing looked as good as a GM car back then. Best colors, best engines, best interiors, best options---everybody else looked kinda.....dorky....
 
Oh yeah, now and then another automaker would have a brief flash of brilliance, but pound for pound, year after year, GM beat them senseless when it came to the vitality of the styling IMO.
 
They made a few TURKEYS but not too many. Even their turkeys looked good.
 
Chevy did a smack down on Ford in 1928 or so and never looked back for some 60 years I guess.

#369 of 405 Re: not bad at all.... [Mr_Shiftright] The worst... [euphonium] [fintail] [lemko] [fintail] [au1994] [fintail] [Mr_Shiftright] [lemko] [uplanderguy] [andre1969] [fezo] [Mr_Shiftright] by andre1969

Apr 01, 2010 (5:53 pm)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 01, 2010 5:13 pm)
One thing I think GM was really good at back in those days was dressing up their cars so that they looked more substantial than the competition...even if they weren't. For example, when the 1965 Caprice came out, that interior seemed to set a whole new precedent for its class. It seemed downright luxurious! I honestly can't remember the Ford LTD's interior for comparison, but I do remember the Fury VIP didn't seem as much of a class act.
 
Pontiac's Bonneville Brougham was also a pretty ritzy ride. I don't recall any really direct equivalent to it in Dodge's lineup. Dodge's Custom 880 was pretty nice, and once the Monaco went full-lineup it was nice too, but I wouldn't put either one in the same league as a Bonneville Brougham.

#370 of 405 Re: not bad at all.... [Mr_Shiftright] The worst... [euphonium] [fintail] [lemko] [fintail] [au1994] [fintail] [Mr_Shiftright] [lemko] [uplanderguy] [andre1969] by ghulet

Apr 02, 2010 (12:18 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Apr 01, 2010 4:52 pm)
good catch re: the Stude on Mr. Ed thing....another silly old show I watch (at least I have no real addictions to new shows, except sometimes "The First 48"). Studebakers were about all you'd see on 'Mr. Ed', at least til the last season (can't remember which was 'cancelled' first).

#371 of 405 Re: not bad at all.... [Mr_Shiftright] The worst... [euphonium] [fintail] [lemko] [fintail] [au1994] [fintail] [Mr_Shiftright] [lemko] [uplanderguy] [andre1969] [fezo] [Mr_Shiftright] [andre1969] by ghulet

Apr 02, 2010 (12:34 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Apr 01, 2010 5:53 pm)
plus, along with the foam padded seats, fancier upholstery and trim and Strato-bench seat (some years), a vinyl top (again, only in certain model years) were standard, as were power windows in '67 and '68, apparently, on the Bonneville Brougham. Another oddity is that it was only available on four-door hardtops the first three or four years (1964-66), then in '67 it was also available on the sedan, allegedly (try finding one!), and in '68 was available for 2HTs, 4HTs and convertibles. In '69, according to my 'book' (which, admittedly, is frequently inaccurate), it was supposedly available only on two-doors. Then in '70, only on hardtops. There's all the useless knowledge my book and I possess regarding the Bonneville Brougham trim option. Go figure.
 
For 1971, the Grand Ville debuted, kinda negating any need for a Bonneville Brougham. Oddly, for '71 and '72 only, there was a (separate series) Catalina Brougham (two-door hardtop, four-door sedan and hardtop). Four full-size series those two years, perhaps a bit much, eh?

#372 of 405 Re: not bad at all.... [Mr_Shiftright] The worst... [euphonium] [fintail] [lemko] [fintail] [au1994] [fintail] [Mr_Shiftright] [lemko] [uplanderguy] [andre1969] [fezo] [Mr_Shiftright] [andre1969] [ghulet] by uplanderguy

Apr 02, 2010 (3:20 am)

Replying to: ghulet (Apr 02, 2010 12:34 am)
The Bonneville Brougham was available only on the four-door hardtop in '64-65, then became available on the sport coupe and even the convertible in '66, all the way through '70 I'm pretty darn sure (at least through '69). The four-door sedan Bonneville came out in '68 but I have never, ever seen one that was a Brougham and I bet the sales brochure would say it was N/A in a sedan.
 
Bill

#373 of 405 Re: not bad at all.... [Mr_Shiftright] The worst... [euphonium] [fintail] [lemko] [fintail] [au1994] [fintail] [Mr_Shiftright] [lemko] [uplanderguy] [andre1969] [fezo] by uplanderguy

Apr 02, 2010 (3:25 am)

Replying to: fezo (Apr 01, 2010 5:07 pm)
They were sturdy enough beasts but rust buckets.
 
It is certainly true that the front-fender rust was all-too-evident after a few years in the northern winters. NOS front fenders were plentiful and cheap for them (still are for '64 and later) and often the fender rust, although looked bad, didn't mean that the rest of the car was a total rustbucket.
 
Bill

#374 of 405 Re: not bad at all.... [Mr_Shiftright] The worst... [euphonium] [fintail] [lemko] [fintail] [au1994] [fintail] [Mr_Shiftright] [lemko] [uplanderguy] [andre1969] [fezo] [Mr_Shiftright] [andre1969] [ghulet] [uplanderguy] by ghulet

Apr 02, 2010 (6:08 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Apr 02, 2010 3:20 am)
yeah, you may be right....like I said, the book I have (The Encyclopedia of American Cars, 1946-75), though an excellent resource I refer to every day, isn't always accurate. Though, as rare as Bonneville sedans are (built only in '68-69, as far as I know), it's possible, I guess.

#375 of 405 Re: not bad at all.... [Mr_Shiftright] The worst... [euphonium] [fintail] [lemko] [fintail] [au1994] [fintail] [Mr_Shiftright] [lemko] [uplanderguy] [andre1969] [fezo] [Mr_Shiftright] [andre1969] [ghulet] [uplanderguy] [ghulet] by euphonium

Apr 02, 2010 (4:38 pm)

Replying to: ghulet (Apr 02, 2010 6:08 am)
My Father drove a '63 Pontiac Bonneville Vista - a 4 door sedan - pillarless.

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