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Re: Where is the VW "Thing"? [Mr_Shiftright] by hpmctorque
May 10, 2009 (5:47 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 09, 2009 12:56 pm)

Look at how successful DOS was in the '80s, compared with Apple's operating system. This is an example of where Microsoft's clever marketing and promotion triumphed over a superior product.
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Re: Where is the VW "Thing"? [hpmctorque] by corvette
May 10, 2009 (7:49 am)
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In the late 1980s/early 1990s, there was no Internet, and it was very hard to find software for Apple machines. Also, Macs were not as affordably priced as they are today. This made the PC an easy choice for the middle class consumer who had a budget of $2,000 or less.
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Re: Where is the VW "Thing"? [corvette] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
May 10, 2009 (8:17 am)
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Replying to: corvette (May 10, 2009 7:49 am)

I think it was more that MS got in cahoots with computer manufacturers and packed each machine. More machines out there, more MS users. MS used sheer horsepower to dominate the market. Ruthless capitalism at its best. Cornelius Vanderbilt would be proud.
 
High price may have inhibited MAC but not Harley. Not only are they mediocre bikes, they are very expensive mediocre bikes. That's a neat trick and a tribute to superior marketing. Something like the $75 pair of designer denims made in Indonesia.
 
Even more remarkable is that they are marketed as a "buy American" motorcycle when they are loaded with foreign technology and parts.
 
You really have to take your hat off to H-D, like 'em or not.
 
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Re: Where is the VW "Thing"? [Mr_Shiftright] by isellhondas
May 10, 2009 (1:03 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 10, 2009 8:17 am)

" Not only are they mediocre bikes"
 
Ah, but NOTHING sounds like a Harley!
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Re: Where is the VW "Thing"? [isellhondas] by fintail
May 10, 2009 (3:13 pm)
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Replying to: isellhondas (May 10, 2009 1:03 pm)

I am thankful for that
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Re: Where is the VW "Thing"? [isellhondas] by corvette
May 10, 2009 (3:39 pm)
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Replying to: isellhondas (May 10, 2009 1:03 pm)

Ah, but NOTHING sounds like a Harley!
 
What really gets me are the jerks who install straight pipes--most of them wear earplugs every time they ride, so they can kind of hear their bike's engine through the earplugs, at the expense of everyone else's hearing and sanity...
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Re: Where is the VW "Thing"? [isellhondas] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
May 10, 2009 (4:45 pm)
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Replying to: isellhondas (May 10, 2009 1:03 pm)

Oh I dunno...some bowling balls stuffed into a clothes dryer perhaps? A diesel locomotive with a bad transmission? Ten longshoremen doing meth and pounding on a garage door?
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Re: Notice Fewer Neons [dave8697] by andres3
May 11, 2009 (1:45 pm)
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Replying to: dave8697 (May 08, 2009 7:31 pm)

Neons were $7999 new in the mid 90's. The Civic mentioned above went for $20k with manual trans and hand crank windows.
 
Neons might have been $7,999 in pre-release marketing campaigns from Chrysler, but once it was finally released in 1994 as a 1995 model, they cost between $10,000 and $15,000 before taxes and license/registration.
 
Civics were about $2,000 more similarly equipped. Chrysler stole $15,000 regularly from people buying more "equipped" Neons.
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Re: Where is the VW "Thing"? [Mr_Shiftright] by isellhondas
May 11, 2009 (1:53 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 10, 2009 4:45 pm)

I think the sound is potato potato potato potato.
 
Except for Dan Qualye's Harley...Potatoe potatoe potatoe potatoe....

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