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#271 of 298 Re: Did the govt. [texases] by toomanyfumes May 08, 2009 (5:03 pm)
Replying to: texases (May 08, 2009 4:35 pm) I remember hearing that the headlights on those models were awful, too. If you look at them, they are tiny. The original Intrepid, and Concorde were good looking cars in that era, though.   One of our neighbors kid has an old Neon he parks in the street. Engine has sounded like it's gonna blow for at least a couple years, but it keeps going. There is also a huge puddle of oil underneath it at all times.
#272 of 298 Re: Did the govt. [bumpy] by dave8697 May 08, 2009 (7:08 pm)
Replying to: bumpy (May 08, 2009 6:43 am) I rode alongside one today on the way to work. Red with two wide white stripes and a hood scoop. It was in great shape. Even the headlight lens' were clear.   After 10 years old you know your trade-in value is about the sales tax on a new car. Your probably not going to spend as much on it. Hence, fallapartitis is possible to go unchecked.
#273 of 298 Re: Notice Fewer Neons [Mr_Shiftright] by dave8697 May 08, 2009 (7:31 pm)
Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 08, 2009 9:06 am) All $600 cars can become $6000 cars at age 14. My friend took his '98 civic to the dealer for a 150,000 mile checkup. Nothing was specifically known to be wrong with it other than hardness to start. It cost him $1100 and after that the windshield was still all cracked up and the drivetrain was still very loosely hanging onto the chassis and the a/c and speedometer still didn't work. Doesn't that make a $1200 Civic into a $6000 car too? I could put $6000 into my '96 and still find a nicer one for sale for $4500 somewhere. $ put into a car does not always undo age or miles. Usually everything has wear and tear on it. My experience is more expensive cars hold up better but cost a lot to keep perfect. Neons were $7999 new in the mid 90's. The Civic mentioned above went for $20k with manual trans and hand crank windows. Replies to this message: chetj (May 09, 2009 1:19 am) isellhondas (May 09, 2009 1:19 pm) cimbriano (May 09, 2009 3:03 pm) dave8697 (May 09, 2009 5:07 pm) and 2 more... andres3 (May 11, 2009 1:45 pm)
#274 of 298 Re: Did the govt. [andre1969] by chetj May 09, 2009 (1:16 am)
Replying to: andre1969 (May 08, 2009 6:44 am) i think the first 3-4 years of the neon were subpar but after that they were ok...i hear the powertrain is actually pretty good...my neighbor has run neons the last 10 years with no problems...he is pretty cheap too, he wouldnt buy one if they werent reliable...another guy i worked with had a neon get flooded by a river and car still runs after some repairs, you cant say that about every car
#275 of 298 Re: Notice Fewer Neons [dave8697] by chetj May 09, 2009 (1:19 am)
Replying to: dave8697 (May 08, 2009 7:31 pm) i hear asian cars are real exp for parts compared to domestics
#276 of 298 Re: worst cars [toomanyfumes] by chetj May 09, 2009 (1:29 am)
Replying to: toomanyfumes (May 06, 2009 3:58 pm) so detroits money was good enough for you but not their vehicles?...to me that is a cardinal sin buying foreign when working at a domestic automaker...i work at a supplier in NH and have bought 5 new Detroit cars over years with good results...i know the big 3 had a bad 15 years or so in 70s and 80s and werent given a 2nd chance by customers
#277 of 298 My First Car by ace3587 May 09, 2009 (6:03 am)
was a 1997 Neon. We ended up selling it for $150 one day when it had 215,000 miles on it. Regular oil changes and belt changes, never had a single problem. Replies to this message: Mr_Shiftright (May 09, 2009 6:11 am) hpmctorque (May 09, 2009 9:53 am)
#278 of 298 Re: My First Car [ace3587] by Mr_Shiftright HOST May 09, 2009 (6:11 am)
Replying to: ace3587 (May 09, 2009 6:03 am) I think the reality of it all is that if a car starts out with a bad reputation, then it never lives it down, no matter how much it improves. To use a rather clumsy analogy, if your employee steals from you, goes to prison, finds God and works with orphans for the rest of her life, you are still not going to let her manage your bank account. Replies to this message: hpmctorque (May 09, 2009 9:53 am)
#279 of 298 Re: My First Car [Mr_Shiftright] by hpmctorque May 09, 2009 (9:53 am)
Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 09, 2009 6:11 am) True, and that creates opportunities in used cars.

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