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298 messages, Last post on May 11, 2009 at 1:53 PM
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Replying to: andre1969 (Dec 06, 2008 7:16 am) My definition of a "worst car" would be something like this: A car that has one or more serious inherent faults that will cripple 25% or more of the units manufactured within the first year of operation So for instance if you take a Saab 900 Turbo, with a pretty well documented head gasket failure rate of around 9%, that ain't great but that doesn't make it one of the world's worst cars. But if you take a Maserati Bi-Turbo, where you could hardly find one that hasn't had an engine rebuild, (or multiple engine rebuilds), that's pretty bad.
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 06, 2008 7:27 am) A car that has one or more serious inherent faults that will cripple 25% or more of the units manufactured within the first year of operation --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- So I have to ask, Shifty. Was the Chevette a "worst car" by that definition? I always had the the impression that it was a crying shame as a car, but was reasonably reliable.
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Replying to: bhill2 (Dec 09, 2008 1:09 pm) It takes as much genius to make a car completely bad as it does to make it completely good I think. |
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"It takes as much genius to make a car completely bad as it does to make it completely good I think." I know what you're trying to say, shifty, since the cars that are "completely" bad or good are statistical outliers, but I don't think your statement is correct.
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Dec 10, 2008 9:24 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 10, 2008 11:06 am) |
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I had a neighbor who had issues with his Datsun F-10, and I've read other complaints, but I thought the B-210, which I believe was the RWD predecessor to the FWD F-10, was a good little car.
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Dec 10, 2008 5:35 pm) |
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I know one of the more rust-prone spots of the Vega, at least the earlier ones, is the base of the A-pillar. And in the past, I'd always heard that once the rust gets in there, the car is done. However, yesterday I was at my mechanic's place, as he wanted me to see the progress on my '67 Catalina. He does body work as well, and had fixed the rust at the base of the windshield. While I was there, I noticed a Mini (the "real" one from the 60's) in his shop, that had recent weld work done at the base of both A-pillars. That got me thinking about the Vega, so I asked him how hard it would be to fix one. And he said, "No big deal". And then a second later, he got this confused look on his face, and said, "You have a VEGA?!" I replied something like "Oh GOD no!", but that I had been talking about them with some friends, and was curious as to how fatal it really is once those A-pillars start to go. I also used to wonder why the things would start to rust at the base of the A-pillar, as that just seems an odd spot. Usually cars rust down at the lower parts first. But, when I saw how bad my Catalina looked with the windshield out, it was obvious. That base part where the windshield sets in is shaped like a little trough, almost like it was designed to hold water. So once the seal starts to go, it's easy for water to get trapped down in there and do its damage. And I guess it's really easy for it to accumulate in the corners of the windshield, at the A-pillar base.
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Replying to: andre1969 (Dec 11, 2008 5:37 am) If they are all "perished" as the Brits say, it is a major undertaking to replace all that, and definitely not in the "deferred maintenance" category. So I give a major knock on points to a car with totally wiped out door and window seals. That could drop a pretty car from a #2 to a #3. Lots of labor to do doors, door windows, vent windows (especially), and both windshields!! You have to work slowly so you don't damage irreplaceable trim parts.
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