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50 Worst Cars of All Time

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Re: Chrysler/DeSoto Airflow [boomchek] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Dec 01, 2008 (11:04 am)
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Replying to: boomchek (Dec 01, 2008 10:36 am)

People who defend the Chevette sometimes remind me of people who defend the occult or "alternative" medicine, by saying that the reason you're having trouble is your "attitude".
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The problem is your attitude by lokki
Dec 01, 2008 (11:24 am)
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The problem is your attitude
 
Exactly!
 I was once complaining about a problem with my Acura Integra, and my friend said, "What do you expect, Lokki? Of course you're going to have problems. It's just a cheap little car. They all have problems."
 
Silly me. Expecting better.
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Re: The problem is your attitude [lokki] by oregonboy
Dec 01, 2008 (5:40 pm)
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Replying to: lokki (Dec 01, 2008 11:24 am)

What does your friend own???
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Re: The problem is your attitude [lokki] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Dec 01, 2008 (6:14 pm)
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Replying to: lokki (Dec 01, 2008 11:24 am)

In all seriousness, I would rate a Trabant higher than a Chevette.
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Re: The problem is your attitude (Mr_Shiftright) by hpmctorque
Dec 01, 2008 (8:35 pm)
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"In all seriousness, I would rate a Trabant higher than a Chevette."
 
An objective comparison (considering only the attributes and deficiencies, and not assigning any value to the historical significance of the Trabant) would have to put the Trabant below the Chevette.
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Re: The problem is your attitude (Mr_Shiftright) [hpmctorque] by andys120
Dec 02, 2008 (7:02 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Dec 01, 2008 8:35 pm)

It is often forgotten that the Sachsenring Trabant was an advanced design at the time it was introduced in 1957
 
It had a steel monococque frame at a time when most cars used body-frame construction. The roof, doors and fenders were of Duroplast, a plastic at when only
Corvettes used non-metal body panels and it was driven by the front wheels when only Saab and Citroen were using FWD.
 
Unfortunately the design didn't change during the 40 years of production so it was completely obsolete by then but then again so was the VW Type 1 (Beetle).
 
The Chevette OTOH was obsolescent the day the first was made.
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Re: The problem is your attitude (Mr_Shiftright) [andys120] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Dec 02, 2008 (9:46 am)
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Replying to: andys120 (Dec 02, 2008 7:02 am)

Exactly my point. The Trabant had an excuse for being as bad as it was, and at least it is an *interesting* car to own. If the Trabant was communism at its worst, the Chevette was capitalism at its worst and more shameful, in that it was created out of free will.
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Re: The problem is your attitude (Mr_Shiftright) [Mr_Shiftright] by fintail
Dec 02, 2008 (10:26 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 02, 2008 9:46 am)

I can have a little affection for the Trabi, with its raspy smoky little engine and its unusual construction. The people who made it didn't have much in the way of resources, but they tried. The Chevette to me is simply a malaise compact, no matter that it might be better suited for roads here.
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Re: The problem is your attitude (Mr_Shiftright) [andys120](fintail) by hpmctorque
Dec 03, 2008 (4:16 pm)
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"If the Trabant was communism at its worst, the Chevette was capitalism at its worst and more shameful, in that it was created out of free will."
 
I certainly wouldn't cite the Chevette as a paragon of advanced design, but in my opinion the Vega was worse. I also wouldn't defend the Chevette. However, let's be totally, totally honest; if you could afford only one small car, which I presume was the case with most Trabi owners, wouldn't you choose a Chevette over a Trabi? You might, for a variety of reasons, choose a Trabi over a Chevette as your third car, but would you really prefer it as your daily driver and only mode of motorized transportation?
 
In response to the limited versatility of the Chevette Scooter, Chevette also offered a 4-door, which Trabi didn't.
 
I'll grant you that the Trabi handily exceeded the Chevette in one area, and that's in the amount of pollutants its feeble 2-cycle engine spewed into the atmosphere.
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Re: The problem is your attitude (Mr_Shiftright) [andys120](fintail) [hpmctorque] by oregonboy
Dec 03, 2008 (4:23 pm)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Dec 03, 2008 4:16 pm)

But, wait!... there was also a Chevette diesel, as I recall.

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