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Toyota Venza Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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#64 of 406
Re: New Venza [mikes10663] by sunfiend
Dec 24, 2008 (9:08 am)
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Replying to: mikes10663 (Dec 24, 2008 8:03 am)

It is the FWD V-6. Also, after rereading my post I noticed when I described the car buying process I wrote that the dealer first started out asking invoice. That is wrong, they started out saying they would sell it at MSRP.
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Re: Test Drive [wstevec] by marq
Dec 25, 2008 (12:22 pm)
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Replying to: wstevec (Dec 23, 2008 6:09 am)

As you say, distributor add-ons sounds fishy and is but unfortunately they occur regularly in certain states including here in Texas! I saw on the internet that a local Toyota dealer had a blizzard pearl Venza on the lot. I drove over to look at it and write down the cost of unwanted distributor add-ns. They totaled $1500. The salesman I dealt with said maybe they could find one in the system with options I wanted before it gets to the "distributor". He went to "look it up". He came back and said he found a couple (didn't specify what they were) but that the sales manager said they would make a deal taking off the cost of some unwanted options but that they wanted list price for the vehicle including factory options. The car didn't even have the towing package that was on the list of factory options I wanted. I told him I have never paid list price (I'm 64 years old) and left. I'm keeping my 2004 Pilot that I love Until next year to see what is available. I Don't like the new Pilot--so Toyota is losing a sale. They build cars with the options they want to sell--not the ones customers want. They are projected to lose money for the first time in 71 years. if the Domestics rebound and Honda comes out with a direct competitor of the Venza their attitude may change.
 
When I complained about distributor add-ons one salesman told me that the whole country is divided into four regions with a distributor for each region. This is incorrect. There are two distributors for two Southern regions. In the North and West this nonsense does not prevail. I confirmed it by calling a Wisconsin Toyota dealer. I have the misfortune of being in a state (Texas) where the "distributor" gets first crack at adding unwanted, useless, and/or overpriced options ( they can be up to $2000 or more) before the dealer gets the vehicle and decides whether to pile on with more options before the car hits the lot.
 
For a great explanation of this difference in Toyota sticker prices from the prices shown on Edmunds and other internet sites see:
 
http://help.edmunds.com/cgi-bin/edmunds.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=493
 
Thank God for the internet and the information it provides!
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Re: Test Drive [marq] by qs933
Dec 25, 2008 (8:49 pm)
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Replying to: marq (Dec 25, 2008 12:22 pm)

I also live in a state (Hawaii) served by a distributor (Servco) that's totally separate from Toyota of North America. Servco also owns all the dealerships on the island of Oahu. As you can imagine, it's difficult to negotiate when the competition is virtually nil.
 
Pricing is fair (below MSRP but several percentage points above invoice) and usually matches what's on Edmunds, but there is very little negotiating. On the plus side, I've seen only a handful of vehicles with rustproofing or other add-ons of questionable value added. It's nothing compared to what I've seen with GST or SET, where you have first aid kits and window etching and other profit-generators on almost every vehicle.
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Re: Venza at Dealers [qs933] by irismg
Dec 26, 2008 (10:25 am)
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Replying to: qs933 (Dec 24, 2008 2:09 am)

You got the gist of it! Although I personally question whether ANY car is worth $26K given what we use them for. I hope you enjoy your Venza!
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Re: Venza at Dealers [irismg] by chadx
Dec 29, 2008 (1:11 pm)
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Replying to: irismg (Dec 26, 2008 10:25 am)

"Although I personally question whether ANY car is worth $26K given what we use them for."
 
Same could be said for a house since, really, all a house needs to provide is shelter, a place to sleep, eat, etc. and shouldn't cost more than $30k - $120k depending on in what part of the country one lives. But then, not too many people live in a merely "adequate" house. As with cars, it's about wants and not needs. A $5,000 used Toyota car would serve 80% of the country just fine (guessing 20% would legitimately need more room for family, hauling for their job, etc).
 
That being said, "worth" is a completely different thing. It is based on opinion only. If all potential buyers didn't think a specific example of a car was "worth" what manufactures wanted, the car wouldn't sell and the manufactures would have to choose between selling them for less or quit making them. Note I said "all" buyers because even if 95% of buyers didn't think a vehicle worth it, but 5% did and that 5% bought up all available examples, that is all the manufacturer of any product needs. Indeed "worth" is whatever the market will bear.
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Price Check in NJ - AWD V6 by hp88
Jan 01, 2009 (8:50 pm)
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Hi,
 
I live in Central NJ and a dealer, 40-50 miles away in PA is offering $1,500 over invoice.
 
The dealer closer by is offering $2,000 over invoice (MSRP is $34,8XXX and invoice is $30,6XX). Basically, he's splitting the difference. I'm convinced that I shouldn't pay more than $1,000 over invoice and that I should walk away from the deal.
 
I'm basically looking at Comfort (LS), Convenience (CQ) and Navigation (NV) / EJ (Sound upgrade). Its been difficult getting these packages in these combinations but I have been able to locate a few dealers with them. Seems that, if you want Nav, you get stuck with Rear Seat Entertainment package.
 
Any and all information and advice will be greatly appreciated. I'd really like to wrap up Friday (tomorrow).
 
Thanks all,
 
HP.
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Re: Price Check in NJ - AWD V6 [hp88] by my3rdrx
Jan 01, 2009 (9:40 pm)
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Replying to: hp88 (Jan 01, 2009 8:50 pm)

Fitzmall.com is advertising just $700 over invoice ~ it's worth the drive down to either PA or MD for that!
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Re: Price Check in NJ - AWD V6 [my3rdrx] by hp88
Jan 02, 2009 (5:50 am)
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Replying to: my3rdrx (Jan 01, 2009 9:40 pm)

Thx my3rdrx ... just checked out the website...seems that he's $4K below MSRP on fully loaded, $3K below (which puts it about 700-$1K above invoice) on the mid-range of options and about $2K-2.3K below on the FWDs.
 
I'll call them this morning.
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Re: Price Check in NJ - AWD V6 [hp88] by joeblack1
Jan 02, 2009 (7:10 am)
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Replying to: hp88 (Jan 02, 2009 5:50 am)

"I'll call them this morning."
 
Please do let us know how it works out.
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Re: Price Check in NJ - AWD V6 [joeblack1] by hp88
Jan 02, 2009 (3:17 pm)
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Replying to: joeblack1 (Jan 02, 2009 7:10 am)

So far, I haven't pulled the triggers as the Mrs. is considering an Acura MDX now. Regardless, this is what I have...it is impossible for find just Comfort (LS), Convenience (CQ) and Navigation (NV) w/o other major add ons such as Sun Roof, Rear DVD, etc.
 
3 dealers have been able to find that pkg combo with one or two add ons but no cars are available with only those 3 packages.
 
I have gotten 4-5 dealers quoting $1000+ over invoice (Ramsey, Toms River, Caldwell and a couple of others) regardless of the MSRP ... Morristown (Jose x251) and Rt. 22 (Hillside) were willing to go at invoices for the cars they do have. If my wife decides to stay with the Venza, I'll either be locking it down with Ramsey or Rt. 22 depending on which one has the best combination of color and options.
 
Great response/behavior from Ramsey and Morristown...Rt. 22 has done a lot of work trying to find me the right combination of packages (Jamie - Internet sales).
 
Now, we're waiting for Acura quotes ... big ole' circle but boy, its been fun and learning experience buying a Toyota with the veritable variety of options.
 
HP.

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