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Replying to: irismg (Dec 23, 2008 10:58 am) You stated "But, $26K...hm. Nope, about $6K too much." in this post. To me, that meant that you felt that the Venza was overpriced by $6K. But now I think I understand what you really meant -- what you really want is a true base model Venza that starts at $20-22K, rather than a well-equipped "base" that starts at $26K. I mean, for $26K, do you buy a Venza or well-equipped Tiguan, or maybe even a Highlander Hybrid? You're referring to a used Highlander Hybrid, right? A new Highlander Hybrid starts around $35K for the base model. Also, the well-equipped Tiguan SE for $26K is fairly comparable in terms of features of the also well-equipped Venza for $26K. The Venza gets better mileage (20/28 for the 4-cyl AWD, 18/25 for the V6 AWD on regular fuel) versus the Tiguan SE (18/24 for the 4-cyl Automatic 4Motion on premium fuel). Features are likely a wash -- I see things missing on the Tiguan (manual, 1-zone AC; 17" wheel), but I'm sure there's stuff that the Venza is missing. Which brings me to the final nail in the coffin for the prospect of a new Venza for me. That's an important distinction, and I understand now where you're coming from. It's not that you feel that the Venza is not worth what it costs. Any car that costs $26K would be out of consideration based on your criteria. I agree; we all need to purchase the vehicle that's right for our own wants and needs. Based on my initial look, I'm pleased with the Venza and think it's priced pretty competitively. It's high on my list of potential vehicles.
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Replying to: sunfiend (Dec 23, 2008 2:17 pm) Thanks
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Replying to: sunfiend (Dec 23, 2008 2:17 pm) There you have it. I'm quite sure I could have received a better deal if I was a good negotiator. Which I unfortunately am not. And my wife is worse. But in the end I feel it is in the ball-park of fairness. Or at least that is what I'm telling myself. When they raised our trade-in amount it then matched Edmunds TMV for it. So that's good. Looking forward to driving our new Blizzard Pearl, Ivory Leather Venza!! ---- I think most people feel if they only would have negotiated a little longer, they could have gotten a better deal. I know I felt that way more than once. I have been buying new vehicles for almost 15 years and have learned a lot. Looking back, I always got the car (options, color) I wanted and enjoyed it for years, but don't always remember the final purchase price. My wife and I are enjoying our Venza. Saw a Blizzard Pearl recently and love that color too. |
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Replying to: mikes10663 (Dec 24, 2008 8:03 am) |
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Replying to: wstevec (Dec 23, 2008 6:09 am) When I complained about distributor add-ons one salesman told me that the whole country is divided into four regions with a distributor for each region. This is incorrect. There are two distributors for two Southern regions. In the North and West this nonsense does not prevail. I confirmed it by calling a Wisconsin Toyota dealer. I have the misfortune of being in a state (Texas) where the "distributor" gets first crack at adding unwanted, useless, and/or overpriced options ( they can be up to $2000 or more) before the dealer gets the vehicle and decides whether to pile on with more options before the car hits the lot. For a great explanation of this difference in Toyota sticker prices from the prices shown on Edmunds and other internet sites see: http://help.edmunds.com/cgi-bin/edmunds.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=493 Thank God for the internet and the information it provides!
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Replying to: marq (Dec 25, 2008 12:22 pm) Pricing is fair (below MSRP but several percentage points above invoice) and usually matches what's on Edmunds, but there is very little negotiating. On the plus side, I've seen only a handful of vehicles with rustproofing or other add-ons of questionable value added. It's nothing compared to what I've seen with GST or SET, where you have first aid kits and window etching and other profit-generators on almost every vehicle. |
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Replying to: qs933 (Dec 24, 2008 2:09 am)  Although I personally question whether ANY car is worth $26K given what we use them for. I hope you enjoy your Venza!
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Replying to: irismg (Dec 26, 2008 10:25 am) Same could be said for a house since, really, all a house needs to provide is shelter, a place to sleep, eat, etc. and shouldn't cost more than $30k - $120k depending on in what part of the country one lives. But then, not too many people live in a merely "adequate" house.  As with cars, it's about wants and not needs. A $5,000 used Toyota car would serve 80% of the country just fine (guessing 20% would legitimately need more room for family, hauling for their job, etc). That being said, "worth" is a completely different thing. It is based on opinion only. If all potential buyers didn't think a specific example of a car was "worth" what manufactures wanted, the car wouldn't sell and the manufactures would have to choose between selling them for less or quit making them. Note I said "all" buyers because even if 95% of buyers didn't think a vehicle worth it, but 5% did and that 5% bought up all available examples, that is all the manufacturer of any product needs. Indeed "worth" is whatever the market will bear.
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Hi, I live in Central NJ and a dealer, 40-50 miles away in PA is offering $1,500 over invoice. The dealer closer by is offering $2,000 over invoice (MSRP is $34,8XXX and invoice is $30,6XX). Basically, he's splitting the difference. I'm convinced that I shouldn't pay more than $1,000 over invoice and that I should walk away from the deal. I'm basically looking at Comfort (LS), Convenience (CQ) and Navigation (NV) / EJ (Sound upgrade). Its been difficult getting these packages in these combinations but I have been able to locate a few dealers with them. Seems that, if you want Nav, you get stuck with Rear Seat Entertainment package. Any and all information and advice will be greatly appreciated. I'd really like to wrap up Friday (tomorrow). Thanks all, HP.
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Replying to: hp88 (Jan 01, 2009 8:50 pm)
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