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Replying to: marq (Dec 22, 2008 11:03 am)
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Replying to: qs933 (Dec 20, 2008 4:04 pm) Second, although I don't see where I wrote anything about what Venza "should" be priced, I do believe Venza would be well-priced in the $21-$22K range for the base model. Anything higher than that, as I have suggested, there are other options at better prices. I mean, for $26K, do you buy a Venza or well-equipped Tiguan, or maybe even a Highlander Hybrid? Back in the day, they used to price the Saturn wagon about $1000 higher than the Saturn sedan; in that case, a base Venza should then only be about a grand more than a base Camry. And even then, this would be more than I'd be willing to spend for it unless there were some serious rebates attached. Which brings me to the final nail in the coffin for the prospect of a new Venza for me. Your own budget may of course be different, but I suppose the best way to sum up what I wrote is that $26K is about $6K more than I would spend on a car....period. It's all according to personal preference, no matter how you choose to look at it. As far as Volkswagens go, they tend to be pricey by American car standards anyway, but yet cost less than Audis, which VW owns. But is Tiguan too expensive? Not compared to the rest of their lineup, unless you are looking at the Jetta Sportwagen, which is the only cargo-carrying vehicle they have that's smaller and less expensive, and can be had for about $21K MSRP. I believe that size and price-wise, Venza would be more comparable to the Passat Wagon and pricing it like that puts it pretty much out of reach for me. THAT's what I was trying to put across! 
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Replying to: wstevec (Dec 16, 2008 10:08 am) Right now the price of gas is back down to where even premium is a bargain, but I don't think we should be fooled into believing it'll stay that way. In my opinion, one should shop as if the gas price were high. The difference between regular and midgrade is only a few dollars per tank, the price of a carton of cigarettes, say, which in my opinion is not really enough of a consideration. One could perhaps judge the car based on whether it has the right amount of room for you and how comfortable it is. But that said, I do hear what you're saying and felt the same way about the regular vs premium before I saw just how high gas could get! Now I don't have any problem with midgrade or higher gas, especially now that it costs now what I used to pay for regular! But if you don't mind my asking, was your salesman telling you then, that it's going to be cheaper to buy it now while nobody has any than to wait until they have some in stock? Dealers do tend to put a lot of dealer-added stuff on them that nobody asked for...
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Replying to: md_outback (Dec 20, 2008 2:30 pm)
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Replying to: yelirkram (Dec 21, 2008 4:23 pm) But yours IS the leather model, though... |
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Replying to: irismg (Dec 23, 2008 11:13 am) )
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Just bought a new V-6 Venza. MSRP is 33580. We paid 30473 before trade-in, tax, title, doc fee, etc... Options are as follows: 1) Blizzard Pearl (Special Color charge) 2) Tow Prep (TO) 3) Convenience (CQ) 4) Comfort (LS) 5) Security (SA) 6) JBL Stereo/Blue Tooth (EJ) 7) Carpet Floor Mats and Cargo Net (We had them throw this in) It was missing the Lighting Package, otherwise it would be a Prem #2. But we're okay without it. I hate the car buying process. We started out where they said they'll sell it to you at invoice. I came back with 29540. I was aiming for a 10-11% discount from MSRP. Salesman leaves for ten minutes to go talk to manager (or whatever). He comes back and says invoice including TDA is 29973 and they won't sell below invoice. I made my first mistake by saying okay, I'll pay that if you include the carpet floor mats & cargo net. I should have just said I won't pay that much to see what he would have said. Oops. Salesman leaves for ten minutes again...Comes back and says, we'll cut the bs and our final price is 30473. We said no way and left. We get a call the next day saying that if we pay the 30473 they'll raise our trade-in value by $500. I accepted. There you have it. I'm quite sure I could have received a better deal if I was a good negotiator. Which I unfortunately am not. And my wife is worse. But in the end I feel it is in the ball-park of fairness. Or at least that is what I'm telling myself. When they raised our trade-in amount it then matched Edmunds TMV for it. So that's good. Looking forward to driving our new Blizzard Pearl, Ivory Leather Venza!!
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Replying to: irismg (Dec 23, 2008 10:58 am) You stated "But, $26K...hm. Nope, about $6K too much." in this post. To me, that meant that you felt that the Venza was overpriced by $6K. But now I think I understand what you really meant -- what you really want is a true base model Venza that starts at $20-22K, rather than a well-equipped "base" that starts at $26K. I mean, for $26K, do you buy a Venza or well-equipped Tiguan, or maybe even a Highlander Hybrid? You're referring to a used Highlander Hybrid, right? A new Highlander Hybrid starts around $35K for the base model. Also, the well-equipped Tiguan SE for $26K is fairly comparable in terms of features of the also well-equipped Venza for $26K. The Venza gets better mileage (20/28 for the 4-cyl AWD, 18/25 for the V6 AWD on regular fuel) versus the Tiguan SE (18/24 for the 4-cyl Automatic 4Motion on premium fuel). Features are likely a wash -- I see things missing on the Tiguan (manual, 1-zone AC; 17" wheel), but I'm sure there's stuff that the Venza is missing. Which brings me to the final nail in the coffin for the prospect of a new Venza for me. That's an important distinction, and I understand now where you're coming from. It's not that you feel that the Venza is not worth what it costs. Any car that costs $26K would be out of consideration based on your criteria. I agree; we all need to purchase the vehicle that's right for our own wants and needs. Based on my initial look, I'm pleased with the Venza and think it's priced pretty competitively. It's high on my list of potential vehicles.
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Replying to: sunfiend (Dec 23, 2008 2:17 pm) Thanks
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Replying to: sunfiend (Dec 23, 2008 2:17 pm) There you have it. I'm quite sure I could have received a better deal if I was a good negotiator. Which I unfortunately am not. And my wife is worse. But in the end I feel it is in the ball-park of fairness. Or at least that is what I'm telling myself. When they raised our trade-in amount it then matched Edmunds TMV for it. So that's good. Looking forward to driving our new Blizzard Pearl, Ivory Leather Venza!! ---- I think most people feel if they only would have negotiated a little longer, they could have gotten a better deal. I know I felt that way more than once. I have been buying new vehicles for almost 15 years and have learned a lot. Looking back, I always got the car (options, color) I wanted and enjoyed it for years, but don't always remember the final purchase price. My wife and I are enjoying our Venza. Saw a Blizzard Pearl recently and love that color too. |
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