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Re: prepackaged options [westchester]
by japj
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Jul 21, 2009 (2:14 pm)
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Replying to: westchester (Jul 21, 2009 1:51 pm)
I did the same this week (that is: convenience package and JBL but no leather). The salesman gave me the address where they do the after market leather, so I went to the place and instead of charging me the 1500 the dealer would, they said it would cost me 1000. Like the cloth as well though and am waiting for the first big stain that will push me towards having the leather installed.
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- #318 of 419
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Re: Venza - Good Dealerships in CT & How much you paid for it? [free2run]
by japj
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Jul 21, 2009 (2:20 pm)
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Replying to: free2run (Jul 12, 2009 5:52 am)
I bought mine in Danvers, MA. They were willing to negotiate. I got the high end Kelly Blue Book value for my trade-in and the invoice price on the Venza (of course they may have allocated things differently internally but I don't know since I negotiated in an 'out the door basis').
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- #319 of 419
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Re: Overall Ratings for the '09 Venza - Positive? [sherb2000]
by emjay1
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Jul 22, 2009 (4:05 am)
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Replying to: sherb2000 (Jul 12, 2009 4:20 am)
Actually in looking at all the various "crossover" SUV's on the market, they all have a very similar aesthetic (swoopy shape) and pretty close to the same stats, ie MPG, interior space, keyless ignition, all those optional bells and whistles. Makes it pretty good for apples to apples comparisons. At this point I'm looking for user reviews in re the longevity of the various makes, and Toyota seems to have a pretty strong following. I trust the opinions of people who have owned a given car for years over anything the manufacturer says. Of course anyone can get a lemon - so I generally try to get a cross-cut of opinions to go from. I appreciate all the feedback on the Venza. Still pondering my options...
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Re: Overall Ratings for the '09 Venza - Positive? [emjay1]
by lisa4labz
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Jul 22, 2009 (6:44 am)
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Replying to: emjay1 (Jul 22, 2009 4:05 am)
If mine would ever come in I'd be happy to give you my opinion. Hopefully within in the next 2 weeks its here. Not many on the road so its hard to find people to ask about the vehicle.
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- #321 of 419
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Re: Venza - Good Dealerships in CT & How much you paid for it? [japj]
by yurko
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Jul 22, 2009 (7:34 am)
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Replying to: japj (Jul 21, 2009 2:20 pm)
Hi, japj. You mentioned that you got "the high end Kelly Blue Book value" for your trade-in. Those values can vary a lot based upon whether the trade-in is regarded as being in "EXCELLENT", "GOOD", or "FAIR" condition. Supposedly, only 5% or so fall into the "EXCELLENT" category, while most fall into the "GOOD" category. Separating the new car selling price and the allowance for the trade-in -- as you did, was "the high end Kelly Blue Book value" you got for your trade-in based upon an "EXCELLENT", "GOOD", or "FAIR" condition rating?
As a general question to all, isn't it very difficult to get an "EXCELLENT" condition rating for your trade-in? It seems like dealers often make most of their profits from the trade-in's they take -- i.e. they'll nickel & dime down the condition of your trade-in.
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Re: Venza - Good Dealerships in CT & How much you paid for it? [yurko]
by japj
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Jul 22, 2009 (9:29 am)
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Replying to: yurko (Jul 22, 2009 7:34 am)
Based on my calculations it was the EXCELLENT value in KBB (which was slightly lower than the TMV on Edmunds for my car but higher than NADA and Blackbook). What I had done is taking the invoice price from Edmunds for the Venza, take the TMV for my car (2006 Mercedes C280) and used that as my reference point. I ended up setting my self a max out of the door amount and stuck to that (even walked away when we were 300 dollars apart.
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- #323 of 419
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Re: Venza - Good Dealerships in CT & How much you paid for it? [japj]
by yurko
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Jul 22, 2009 (12:52 pm)
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Replying to: japj (Jul 22, 2009 9:29 am)
Thanks, japj. You were obviously very thorough in doing your "homework" and it looks like you got a good deal. I hope the Venza works out for you.
I'm also leaning towards buying a Venza, but want to see what the new Honda CrossTour (or whatever they end up calling it) is like.
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- #324 of 419
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Venza SWFL
by dturr
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Jul 23, 2009 (8:41 am)
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Lost interest on a Venza in Fort Myers as they had all the nonsense options attached and who wants heated seats in Florida? Anyone else having this problem.
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Re: Venza SWFL [dturr]
by yurko
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Jul 23, 2009 (11:49 am)
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Replying to: dturr (Jul 23, 2009 8:41 am)
dturr:
I've seen many Venzas w/o heated seats at Germain Toyota in Naples, but their pricing policy turns me off. When the Venzas first appeared late last year, Germain wanted $4,995 over MSRP for them. Imagine my surprise when I was subsequently told by COSTCO that Germain is their participating South Florida Toyota discount dealer. I later asked a Germain salesperson how they could be charging so much for someone who walks off the street, yet also be the COSTCO-participating discount dealer for the area. His response, "We've gotta make our money somewhere". Go figure.
With respect to the heated seats, we moved to South Florida from Wisconsin last fall and there were a few days when the heated seats on our Honda and Volvo came in handy. Granted, it wasn't often. What I wish is that Toyota offered heated and cooled (ventilated) front seats on the Venza.
In any event, if you belong to COSTCO, you might want to check out Germain. I'm waiting to see what the new Honda crossover is like before I buy.
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Re: Venza SWFL [dturr]
by emjay1
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Jul 23, 2009 (12:38 pm)
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Replying to: dturr (Jul 23, 2009 8:41 am)
In my experience, the only way to get the exact options you want in a car is to order it new from the factory. I have also found that is the WORST deal. I'm sure you know the minute you drive a brand new vehicle off the lot, it drops in value. The manufacturers seem to take a best-guess approach to the options on their production models, and how they decide to distribute them across the country is a complete mystery to me. It's just catch as catch can to find the best combination for you that's available.
And by the way - I vote a big YES for the cooled seats - we're having a major heat wave here in Texas! But very few manufacturers seem to think that's important - I guess because they're not having to get into a parked vehicle that's 150 degrees inside.
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