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Toyota Venza Prices Paid and Buying Experience

406 messages,  Last post on Nov 04, 2009 at 4:22 PM

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Re: LONG Buying Experience Post [vestirse] by svofan2
Jul 01, 2009 (4:06 pm)
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Replying to: vestirse (Jun 30, 2009 6:32 pm)

Senor y cubano....y ud?....where you borned here?...I came when I was 15 now I am 65 could be grandfather...lol...I know host sorry for getting of the subject...it wont happened again...good luck to you and stay out ofr the Sun,,I am NJ...
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Re: LONG Buying Experience Post [svofan2] by vestirse
Jul 01, 2009 (9:58 pm)
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Replying to: svofan2 (Jul 01, 2009 4:06 pm)

No soy cubana, pero nací y me críe en Miami
 
I'm wondering a few things about my buying experience. I've come to some conclusions that perhaps are incorrect.
 
1. I've heard that dealerships have quotas and if they haven't filled them yet, buying at the end of the month may save you a lot since they are trying to meet their quota. I bought at the end of the month...
 
2. I've also heard that dealerships have a certain time in which to sell the car before the manufacturer keeps the holdback. It's usually about 3 months, according to a few sources I've read on the web. I've checked the manufacture date on the door jam on my Venza and it was indeed manufactured 3 months ago...
 
Either of these true?
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Re: LONG Buying Experience Post [vestirse] by kyfdx HOST
Jul 02, 2009 (3:24 am)
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Replying to: vestirse (Jul 01, 2009 9:58 pm)

The dealer gets the same holdback on every unit (assuming they are identical).
 
  The dealer has to pay a bank to finance his inventory. Assuming he is paying 8% interest (not likely that high), then in three months, he would pay the equivalent of the 2% holdback on an individual unit.. But, Toyota doesn't take away any of the holdback.. the dealer still gets the full amount.
 
It used to be that the manufacturers provided financing for all of the inventory at their dealerships... but, that just isn't the case today. The banking industry is very competitive (okay, maybe not in the last year), and dealers can choose to go wherever they get the best deal.
 
So... the idea that an older unit doesn't have any holdback left, just doesn't wash... Each unit that sits on the lot is an expense... If the dealer has paid interest to keep the car on his lot for 9 months, that won't make him any less likely to cut you a deal to get rid of it.. It isn't like he can raise the price each month to recoup his expenses.
 
Any unit that the dealer sells is one less unit that he has to finance the next month.... He gets paid an equal amount for holdback, on all identical units, no matter how long they have been on the lot..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: LONG Buying Experience Post [kyfdx] by vestirse
Jul 02, 2009 (8:45 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jul 02, 2009 3:24 am)

Thank you for the very informative post!
 
From my experience, he seemed very anxious to get it off his lot, but the dealership is huge with many many cars and maybe it was just eating up space. From the time I called him, he was really pushing that particular one and it made me wonder why. Suited me since I liked the black and he was willing to deal on the price but maybe it was just one of those times when the equation fit and equaled a purchase and I am trying to read too much into it .
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Re: Toyota Venza Prices Paid and Buying Experience [kyfdx] by greatguineapig
Jul 03, 2009 (9:21 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Nov 07, 2008 3:27 am)

Anyone have any recommendations on any dealers in the Orlando, FL area...I'm willing to drive a little ways. The reason I ask, all the dealers here are really starting to piss me off. They won't go anymore than $1500 msrp (and this is with a lot of banter) on a 4 cycl 2wd venza. This is even with options I don't want and me being very lenient on my color choices...pretty much picking from what they have on lot. I am doing all my negotiations via e-mail also. Thanks.
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Re: LONG Buying Experience Post [vestirse] by jkl99
Jul 03, 2009 (11:12 am)
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Replying to: vestirse (Jun 30, 2009 11:58 am)

Thanks, vertirse. I have contacted City Toyota as well as some other Toyota dealers near where I live. I will let you know once I have bought my Venza.
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Re: Toyota Venza Prices Paid and Buying Experience [greatguineapig] by roho1
Jul 03, 2009 (1:07 pm)
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Replying to: greatguineapig (Jul 03, 2009 9:21 am)

Good Luck. Do a search on Southeast Toyota here, known as SET. They make it very difficult compared to other regions. Being a new Florida resident myself I have resigned myself to either going out of State or not to buy a Toyota at all.
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Re: Toyota Venza Prices Paid and Buying Experience [roho1] by svofan2
Jul 03, 2009 (2:53 pm)
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Replying to: roho1 (Jul 03, 2009 1:07 pm)

I feel sorry for those of you who live in the Southeast...Toyotas are not sold directly to dealers but to a distributor (middle man..) that adds items to the cars to increase their price (profits) and the dealers are very limited on what they can do when oit comes time to sell, since they also have to make money..the same happens in the Southwest. These are the only 2 areas in the country where Toyota has a "distributor" and for what I read this is a practice going back many years..about the time Toyota started selling cars in the USA..good luck
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Re: Toyota Venza Prices Paid and Buying Experience [svofan2] by qs933
Jul 05, 2009 (12:11 pm)
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Replying to: svofan2 (Jul 03, 2009 2:53 pm)

Like the Southeast and Gulf State regions, Toyota uses a distributor in Hawaii (Servco). We rarely share in the same customer rebates or other incentive offers that are common elsewhere.
 
Servco also owns most of the retail dealer network in Hawaii, so on the plus side, they are pretty good about limiting distributor add-ons. They make their money on the retail side.
 
The downside is that they have pretty good control over pricing within the state. It's also much more difficult to buy out-of-state logistically, and Legislative changes to the way excise tax is applied to out-of-state new vehicle purchases sapped a lot of the potential savings.
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Re: Toyota Venza Prices Paid and Buying Experience [greatguineapig] by katylin1
Jul 05, 2009 (4:31 pm)
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Replying to: greatguineapig (Jul 03, 2009 9:21 am)

I'm glad there's someone else just as irritated as I am with the GulfState (Texas, Louisana, Arkansas, Oklahoma, ??) and SouthEast (Florida, Georgia, North & South Carolina, ?? forgot ) Toyota Distributors.
 
Svofan2 has helped alot with the frustration level and providing me with some insight. If nothing else I'm alittle better prepared for the second round coming. If you really don't care about (or for some indifferent or with a fat wallet) it's relatively easy to get a really nice internet quote. Of course the price of the vehicle is very very bloated but hey for many people that's still a good deal to get something you don't want but at a discount.
 
Anyway, enough with the griping, but if anyone who is dealing with a Toyota dealership NOTin the Distributors areas please post and let me know if they're more flexible. I'm going to try in a few more months.

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