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#157 of 419 Re: Ordered Mine Yesterday [lal_clt] by md_outback Mar 18, 2009 (12:38 pm)
Replying to: lal_clt (Mar 14, 2009 11:17 am) What were fitzmall and carmax's reasons for price changes? Were they offering alternate cars with different equipment or did they change their original quotes? I have recommended these dealers to others but I'll stop doing that if they are playing "dealer games." Thanks. Replies to this message: jimmy2x (Mar 18, 2009 4:53 pm) lal_clt (Mar 18, 2009 6:27 pm)
#158 of 419 Re: Ordered Mine Yesterday [md_outback] by jimmy2x Mar 18, 2009 (4:53 pm)
Replying to: md_outback (Mar 18, 2009 12:38 pm) I can't speak to Carmax, but have dealt with Fitzmall. Bought new 4Runner last year - most business over the phone and e-mail. Absolutely no surprises, although I did have to listen to the BS upsells from the F&I girl, even though it was a cash deal. Overall a far better buying experience than most.
#159 of 419 Re: Ordered Mine Yesterday [md_outback] by lal_clt Mar 18, 2009 (6:27 pm)
Replying to: md_outback (Mar 18, 2009 12:38 pm) I don't know if it was the agents I encountered on the phone or if my experience was typical of both dealerships. I sent very clear specs to Fitzmall and they gave me a great price. I even double-checked with the agent because that person had given me incorrect information about the cost when ordering vs buying from inventory, and also about getting Michelin tires put on. So I was cautious. I even called the sales manager to verify the price. Two days later when it was time to cut the purchase order, suddenly the price was $1000 higher because the agent had supposedly used the wrong options. At that point I lost faith that they had competent people and I worried that after driving/flying 400 miles, something else would go wrong when it came time to pick up the car. In fact, the day before I had read a post from someone who had traveled to Fitzmall and had major problems with the paperwork when trying to get their license back home.   I contacted Carmax about the same time as Fitzmall and the agent faxed me a sticker for a car they had in stock to show me their prices versus invoice. Interestingly, the price he had on the fax was $300 higher than what was shown on the website. When I pointed this out I got some doubletalk but could not get a clear answer as to the discrepancy. Nevertheless I sent my specs to Carmax and the price I got back was only $28 lower than the car in the fax, but MY sticker was $700 lower than the faxed car. When I brought this up to the agent I got more doubletalk but no clear answer. At that point I gave up and said that I would stay in Charlotte and pay a little more but sleep better. I wish I could send you the emails from both those places - it was almost laughable. I could have saved money by going out of town - Fitzmall WAS $900 lower than Charlotte and Carmax was $500 lower, but that includes the SET doc fees of $599 vs. $99 for NET. Like I said at the beginning, maybe I just got agents who weren't used to pricing an order. I'd be curious to hear of other forum users experiences.
#160 of 419 Woman alone at the Dealership by linnett Mar 21, 2009 (12:21 am)
Hello all! I've been researching the Venza online for months and now have one overnight for a test drive. Discussed price today. I'm left less than secure that I did well.   V6 Front Wheel Drive, Tropical Sea Metallic   Navigation System Comfort, Convenience and Secuity Packages   I countered his offer saying I wanted $500 over their invoice and handed him a copy of the pricing certificate from another dealer that read:   "MSRP $31,915 You save $1,672 off MSRP Invoice $29,743 USAA Price Adjustment $500 above invoice    USAA Member Price $30,243       Color Exterior: Tropical Sea Metallic Interior: Light Gray    Options ·COMFORT PKG (LS) ·CONVENIENCE PKG (CQ) ·JBL SYNTHESIS SURROUND SOUND SYSTEM (EJ) ·LEATHER PKG (LA) ·NAVIGATION SYSTEM (NV) ·SECURITY PKG (SA) "   He returned with his Sales manager and said Congratulations! Then we sat down and he wrote down a Sales price of $32,343.   I'm feeling a little Alice in Wonderland here. I know I'm not a math whiz but instead of $30,243 he gives me $32,343 and I'm supposed to be excited? Am I missing something?   I'm looking forward to the back up camera in the large NAV screen instead of the tiny info screen above it.   Puzzeled in Mississippi Replies to this message: md_outback (Mar 21, 2009 6:31 am)
#161 of 419 Addendum by linnett Mar 21, 2009 (12:25 am)
My Mississippi Dealer's MSRP was $34,999.
#162 of 419 Re: Extended Warranty [deepsouth] by linnett Mar 21, 2009 (12:33 am)
Replying to: deepsouth (Feb 27, 2009 7:17 pm) The last thing I read is that with more reliable cars now, extended warranties are less essential.
#163 of 419 Re: Woman alone at the Dealership [linnett] by md_outback Mar 21, 2009 (6:31 am)
Replying to: linnett (Mar 21, 2009 12:21 am) Hi linnett, First off, it looks like your pricing is for two different cars: one with MSRP of $31,915 while the other dealer is offering a Venza with MSRP of $34,999. So there is $3K difference right there. That USAA price cannot be for a V6 Venza with Nav. Comfort, Convenience & Security Packages - the $34,999 is much more realistic. Having said that, you should go to edmunds.com and run the numbers for yourself. You will find that a Venza with an MSRP of $35K has an invoice of around $31K. So your target price of $500 over invoice should be $31,500. Also, be careful with dealer no. 2: Leather is part of the Comfort Package and the JBL Sound System is part of the Navigation package, so be careful that they aren't telling you there are more options on the car then there really are - though the $35K MSRP looks to be accurate. So print out your results from edmunds.com and go back to the dealer and see if you can get another $800 off his price. Or, just go online and request email quotes from several Toyota dealers - both local and some that are a few hours drive (maybe in larger cities). Go with the best deal or have your nearest dealer match the best offer. And skip the extended warranties (unless you plan to abuse the car) and special paint treatments and all that other junk they'll try to sell you - just say NO. Good luck.
#164 of 419 Alice with her apples and oranges by linnett Mar 21, 2009 (8:22 am)
Thank you! I was up until five stewing about this and the fact that the ride is not as cushioned or "soft" in the test drive vehicle as I had hoped. We have a Railroad track through my little city and it's unavoidable, but still seriously bumpy in the Venza. Older coastal city and older infrastructure.   I read one opinion where a person found the "ride" of his test drive vehicle and the one he ordered to be very different.
#165 of 419 Picking up my Venza on Wednesday by xualum Mar 21, 2009 (4:28 pm)
Thanks for all the posts here on Edmunds, it has been a tremendous help. We purchased a Black 6 cyl. FWD Venza with the following: leather package; convenience package; JBL sound system (comes w/bluetooth); tow prep package; panoramic roof; all mats -- did not have the Toyoguard - as many of them already come with it here in the Southeast (We live in Metro Atlanta) Price:$32,400 out the door.   A few things that we've learned: You may have specific extras in mind - but be prepared to expect that they're usually loaded with more features than what you may want, or are really stripped down -- at least that's what we're seeing right now. Didn't necessarily want/need JBL sound nor the tow prep package - but this model had the leather, convenience package and pano roof we were wanting, I'm sure that Toyota planned on this, but sometimes it felt overwhelming with all the options. Perhaps because we've driven Hondas in the past (Odyssey/Accord - both 9 years old!) and while there are always "extras" to be had - it seemed more cut and dry with the trim levels, etc. But, I enjoyed doing the research, and with these Edmunds Forums being so helpful, we felt that this was a decent deal. Thanks again for all your valuable tips and advice!   We pick up our Venza on Wednesday -- I cannot wait!   One little question to pose ---- do you think the Venza looks like a station wagon? I do not think so - but my son does, as do a few others. I was just wondering. Replies to this message: qs933 (Mar 21, 2009 7:13 pm) maximafan (Mar 21, 2009 7:48 pm)
#166 of 419 Venza wagon? Yes by linnett Mar 21, 2009 (4:58 pm)
I think the Venza is a handsome Camry wagon myself. How was your test drive as far as comfort????   I have a V6 now for a (longer than average) test drive. I live in an older coastal community with old infrastructure. Some roads are smooth as glass, others have bumpy seams every eight feet and the railroad tracks are always bumpy. I had expected to feel more cushioned from all of that than I have. Edmunds discussion of the "ride" was encouraging but I'm fairly bummed. I'm really enthusiastic about everything else about the Venza. Could I have a test drive vehicle that provides a rougher ride than another Venza will? Are the roads in my community just too bumpy to bear?

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